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Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn't want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 minutes ago

Propriety, ironically.

[–] punk_princess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 24 minutes ago

guilty by association.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 47 minutes ago

What is "the list"? How do we know the government even has "the list"?

[–] callyral@pawb.social 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No idea, but I read the title like it was the setup to a joke.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 hours ago

The Aristocrats!

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago
[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 17 points 21 hours ago

As non-American, the reason I think that Democrats didn't release the list was that not only were some Democrats and their donors on it, they knew that they would be crucified by Republicans and Americans for it. The also knew that at the same time all the Republicans and their donors on the list would be let off because laws, morality, ethics are only ever to be used to oppress the poor and non-whites or to combat Democratic politicians. Do you think Trump would ever have made it to President as a Democrat? There is a reason he switched to become a Republican.

[–] Coyote_sly@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because Democratic leadership is aware that Republicans aren't their actual enemies, and a ton of them are also on the list.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The democrats are aware that their names are on the list and they’re the only ones that will be held accountable for it. The republicans will hold witch burnings while completely ignoring their own member’s names on the list.

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

will be held accountable for it

sweet summer child

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The obvious is that Dems are on the list too. Which is undoubtedly true. Even more importantly than that donors. But the fact that Merrick Garland was involved and he'd never to anything to make Trump look bad ever should also be remembered.

[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 198 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I assume because there were some high profile dems on the list.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 109 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. Everybody's just going to pretend nothing ever happened and move on.

Just to be clear, that is not what should happen

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Even if it comes to light, I have doubts anything will come of it. Look what happened with the Panama papers. Basically only Iceland did anything about it.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 29 points 1 day ago

Australia acted on it for what it’s worth.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 15 points 1 day ago

they bombed a reporter over it.

[–] danzabia@infosec.pub 10 points 1 day ago

Iceland had the highest profile result so perhaps it may seem that way, but many countries investigated and prosecuted individuals. In addition, it caused the entire global financial system to redouble AML efforts.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

probably some hollywood execs, and AIPAC people too.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 94 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because most of their big money donors are also on the list.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If someone hands you $50,000 a year with no questions every year, it’s hard to say no when they squeeze your hand and ask you to reconsider releasing it.

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

Especially if even if you released it it probably wouldn't change literally a single thing.

[–] kcweller@feddit.nl 30 points 1 day ago

Because Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 88 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And Bill Gates, probably. I have a feeling that was a reason for Melinda to split because she has never given a straightforward answer. It was just, "Oh, we're splitting for reasons."

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

She just gave an interview where she confirmed Epstein was a major reason for the divorce amongst other reasons. She said she met Epstein one time and had nightmares afterwards.

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People just split for irreconcilable differences all the time, they don't owe the public an explanation.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except their split happened when it was revealed he was in contact with Epstein. And "differences" is vague enough that not many people care after. Keeping silent isn't admitting "differences" with a spouse that you've been with for years.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 hours ago

We don't know if the news was coming for a while and just happened to come at the shittiest time for B-man

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[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Its rumored that Epstein was working with Israeli Intelligence so they probably have big files on many prominent Democrats and Republicans which is why everybody talks a big game about releasing the client list (if it exists) but never follows through. Its stuff like this that exposes the real game that both these parties are working together against the American people. The party always comes first.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Pretty sure he was an asset and Ghislaine is the agent. Both based in who’s alive, and whose father’s funeral was attended by multiple former heads of Mossad.

[–] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

This is the part that should be brought up always. MOSSAD ATTENDED STATE FUNERAL

it's all a game. They use the vulnerable as currency and bargaining chips. Literal evil.

I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite conspiracy on the Citadel.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

because includes alot of politicians, donors, and other world leaders, movie executives. just like the panama papers got swept under the carpet, it including tons of rich people.

Gates, musk, trump, hawkings, diddy,,,etc.

[–] 667@lemmy.radio 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Subsequent to the Panama Papers, there were arrests and financial seizures in many of the named countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers?wprov=sfti1#Recovered_money

[–] hactar42@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Let's not forget the assassination of one of the reporters https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia#Death

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Simple, they have more to loose than what they stand to gain.

There are almost certainly several high profile democrats on the list, they don't want to expose themselves so they are blocking the release.

But ok, let's assume that the list has zero democrats on it, that doesn't matter at this point, since it will be extremely difficult to find someone who the public can actually trust to give them real unbiased data.

The republicans knows that they can just lie and say that anyone in the democrats is on the list and just about everyone of their supporters will believe them

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

probably exposes alot of donors/megadonors to congress.

[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Two sides of the same coin. The Dems claim to protect the underdog, the Reps claim to oppress the underdog. Each identity politics appeals to a different demographic.

The thing that's the same between them is that they ALWAYS protect capital.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

There are probably highly placed people in both parties on the list. Is this saying "SeE, tHeY'rE BoTh ThE sAmE!!!"? No, it's saying both have bad actors in them. Neither party has a claim to being morally pristine, because that would be stupid and so is insisting that they should.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

it's almost like humans, in general, are huge corrupt pieces of shit when they become wealthy and powerful.

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[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What would they have had to gain? Fox news would just pivot around it and move on. Trump was already a convicted rapist, tons of catholic priests are forgiven among their community for child rape, so it's not hard to imagine Trump walking away clean from the whole thing.

Meanwhile, dems probably had a couple big donors to lose and possibly a former president. Sounds like a bad trade when the whole party's MO is to keep their hands clean and never play dirty.

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