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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 54 minutes ago (1 children)

I'm studying Physics at the moment and Prof. gave us a printout of a textbook last week stating that the internal of the sun generates approximately 150 W / m³ on average. That's about as much as a compost pile, so, not very much. The sun only generates enormous amounts of power because it's so huge. In other words, reproducing fusion on Earth might actually not be very efficient.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 17 minutes ago

Found this article

https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/04/17/3478276.htm

And it looks like it's saying that the energy produced by nuclear fusion (which happens in the relatively small core) divided by the entire mass of the sun, gives you that low number.

Terrestrial fusion power plants are aiming to be sun cores, so that all the hydrogen they put in gets fused, and not just a few atoms here and there.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago

Good job scientists!

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 0 points 20 minutes ago

You know instead of the artificial sun we could use the real one no? I still think fusion is a good investment on the skill tree but not for consumer energy. Also can someone explain why we use solar panels instead of mirrors that heat up water and spin turbines? Almost every other method of producing energy uses that and from my understanding its more efficient and probably cheaper.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like little fusion has kind of missed the boat. It's been "just a few decades away" since I was in school, and that's a good while ago now.

We can already get limitless clean energy from the real sun.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 2 points 15 minutes ago* (last edited 14 minutes ago)
  1. We should do both

  2. There is no two.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 10 points 1 hour ago

Here's why it's been so long:

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

Anyone here calls paste glue?... Yup, wrong country. And now we got a word that we can use to detect AI.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

0 theoretical hope for fusion energy to ever provide electricity under 30c/kwh. These are hot plasma experiments, which could be used to produce mass HHO from water vapour at just 2200C-3000C, even if endothermic. Can get energy from concentrated solar mirrors or just PV solar if plasma is used. Cooling magnets is a huge energy drain. HHO provide the highest turbine energy gain, though a net gain pathway is just slightly more in reach than fusion.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yes but do you concur?

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Someone needs to bash these scicomm journalists over the head until they stop using the words "artificial sun"

[–] barnaclebutt@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago

Also, where's the study? Is it even peer reviewed?

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

Meh, net gain is the point, long cycles well be useful for production. Useful, eventually. Cart before the horse, otherwise.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Forget artificial suns, let me tell you right now how to make an artificial moon:

  1. Be a robot.
  2. Pull down pants.
  3. Bend over.
  4. Point robo-crack towards recipient
  5. Artificial Moon.
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