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[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (3 children)

More humane like Nazi-America, or more humane like Warcrimes-Russia? Description unclear, please clarify.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

To clarify, what you're doing is "what-aboutism". Asking China to be more humane is not a comment on anything but China being more humane.

Honestly China might start looking moderate compared to what I expect our new Dear Leader to do in the coming years.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They weren't just asking China to be more humane, though. They were suggesting that China doesn't deserve our cooperation because they are inhumane, which implies we have the moral high ground and is explicitly hypocritical. It isn't whataboutism to point out hypocrisy.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There's a lot of assuming, implying, and suggesting in that take. The original just said if they were more humane we would work with them.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

You don't at all see how that implies moral superiority? Or are you just giving them the benefit of the doubt?

The problem is holding China to a higher standard than we hold ourselves to.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 7 hours ago

China could stand to be more humane, but it wouldn't make the US cooperate with them.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world -1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Try to read up and understand what whataboutism means. Because you clearly didn't get the point of my comment.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

You brought up other societies as compared them to us. It's the definition of what-aboutism, just read up on it again to make sure.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago

More humane like the best of us wish to be and the majority of us never will be

[–] guy@piefed.social 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

More humane as in respecting human rights I suppose

[–] kugel7c@feddit.org -4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Is there a state that is not disrespecting human rights ? I for one haven't heard of any.

[–] guy@piefed.social 5 points 11 hours ago

Degrees in hell maybe.