Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.
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I'm on both sides of this. Had an EV for nearly 4 years and had to go back to gas for work (construction, moving/having tools, materials and supplies).
I cannot wait for an affordable small ev pickup. Even a not that affordable one. I just can't do $100k for an oversized monster like the Lightning. But give me a $60k Ranger/Frontier style (basically the smallest truck they make these days, without a full SUV on the front) and 500km range and I'm in.
I hate getting gas. I hate it so much.
People always forget that when you leave home with an EV, you always have a full "tank".
I think ford forgot that Truck makers went big on chassis sizes is for the exemptions for fuel economy signed into law a decade ago.
They could have made a ford ranger EV that was normal truck size from the old days. They went against that because of mentality of current truck drivers. At the same time, the truck drivers who want EV trucks probably aren’t driving the 3 gpm monsters they sell today.
If you’re loud enough on social media, you might get your modest size EV truck in 3-5 years.
I mean, I can't get rid of my S10 because there's no new truck on the market today sufficiently small enough to allow me to compensate for my enormous penis.
Ford made the much smaller Maverick truck starting in 2022. It was a hybrid, not an EV, but they definitely are looking into that market.
Once upon a time I knew someone with a small contracting business. Needed to move sheets of plywood and tools and whatnot around town. Anyway, fed up with one of the pick ups breaking down, he wound up at a used dealer to replace it. He ended up leaving with a wagon instead of a truck, and later on replaced the other trucks he had with wagons. Seems to be a win, it's been about a decade now.
I can't wait to replace our service vans with EV. Fuel costs are a killer, as is the downtime from servicing, not to mention the cost of brake pads and rotors which chew out semi regularly due to the weight we carry.
Unfortunately the only electric vans have terrible range when empty, and far worse when fully loaded. 250k is insufficient.
I'd probably settle for a hybrid, BYD Shark style. Something with a big enough battery for urban use, and a little petrol motor on board to give you range when you actually need it.
Obviously because they don't understand that trips over 4 hours take an extra 10 minutes which will cause any real man to melt!
/every EV thread on the internet
My parents live next door to me. Between us we have three vehicles: My father's new-ish sedan, an old sedan that was my grandmother's and my pickup truck.
At this point I would gladly replace the old sedan with a Nissan Leaf or some other electric car, because it NEVER goes beyond 20 miles from the house, almost always on grocery runs. There are weeks it isn't driven at all. Honestly we could do without it entirely, I drive it mostly to spare my truck the mileage.
This is against my father's religion. Every single thing has been a FIGHT with him. "Let's get the gas powered hedge trimmer." "It's heavier, we'd have to keep buying gas and oil for it, and it'll only ever start and run three times maximum. We'd put it in the shed over winter, the carburetor will fill up with adamantium and it'll never run again." "Let's get the gas one. The men with the knives told me they'd hurt my mom if I bought electric tools." "You're 65 years old and your mother is currently in an urn at Bethesda cemetery. Look, this one runs on the same batteries as our hand drills."
"Let's get the gas powered chainsaw." "Let's get the gas powered string trimmer." "Let's get a gas powered lawn mower." Kicked, screamed, bitched, moaned, collapsed the USD twice, sheepishly admitted the electric ones work better and are easier to start, "LET'S GET A GAS LEAF BLOWER." We own five rakes, dad. "DO WE NEED ANY MORE?"
He wouldn't accept an electric car unless it charged from a solar panel on its roof from empty to full charge in a third of a femptosecond. The man who will go on long, angry rants about not wanting to ever go anywhere ever again because there's only one toilet on the planet he can stand to shit in will say 'What if I want to drive to Honolulu?"
Every cunt-missing navel-fucking thing with that man. He'd have a gas powered hair dryer if they made one.
the carburetor will fill up with adamantium
Jesus, story of my life. I've got battery everything excepting my mulcher, which is dead with a snapped shaft. Do they make strong electric mulchers?
I have no experience with mulchers but if they can get my thickness planer to run on 15 amps they should be able to run a wood chipper on it.
I have an electric wood chipper, it's...adequate. Its been a few years since I bought it, but at the time I bought it, my understanding was that you could not get an electric version that matches the power of gas powered units. For electric, you get to pick either a mulcher that will shred leaves and VERY small branches or a chipper that will slowly turn smallish (maybe 1-1.5") branches into chunks.
Overall, It works for my purpose. I would prefer to have a more powerful one, but I only use it a few times a year and would prefer to avoid dealing with the maintenance that goes with a gas unit (not to mention the horrible smell when using one).
My girlfriend's dad when I first met him rotated his 4wd tires by hand with the spare tire wrench and the little complementary tire jack. I gave him my old air tools (I don't use them anymore). Eventually got him into the Ryobi ecosystem for the rattle gun, leaf blower and line trimmer. He was adimint that any battery tools were just a gimmick.
You don't need the Milwaukee million dollar aircraft carrier starter motor gun, heck my second hand air tools were enough. But to go without battery tools nowadays is just making life deliberately harder.
Technology connections (yt channel) recently had a video where he modded an electric shop heater to be powered from his EV charger.
He had a little mini-rant about how the current state of charging reflects how policymakers have absolutely no idea what day-to-day ownership of an EV is like, and think everyone is DC fast charging everyday.
I was talking to someone I know well about this, she was in an EV and went back to petrol. Two factors, range anxiety and the EV was "soulless"
The soul of a petrol/diesel car, what's that new strange noise, did I change the oil recently, is the cam belt about the explode, acceleration until you have to change gear, inconsistent acceleration, don't cook the brakes going down hill, did I remember to sacrifice to the car gods with morning, how I wish my EV had a soul
That's the same kind of thing people say about vinyl records vs CDs, digital video vs film, 48+ vs 24fps.
All I hear with that kind of complaint is: "It's too good, I'm not used to it. I want what I'm used to, even if it's worse."
Except all the things you mention are about sensory fidelity and you can make an argument for either. The only "fact" involved in CDs vs vinyl is that the latter is less convenient. The audio warmth being more pleasant to someone's ears is not something you can argue with, it just is for them.
That's exactly my point.
People like the noise and feel of an engine, even if it's objectively worse at doing the primary thing it's supposed to do.
All the things I mentioned have the exact same issue. They have more detail and more accurate reproduction. Which are objectively the point of their medium. But people want less detail and accuracy, because they "like it."
Okay. My apologies. Rather than stating that as a fact, I thought you were judging it. My mistake.
Everyone i know who had actually owned an EV has realized that range anxiety is largely a myth.
Yep, if you buy one that's realistic for your lifestyle a few weeks in something pops and you wonder why people were making such a big deal out of it.
I've looked at a few EVs, and I do keep going "Well not yet" because of the goddamn interiors and controls. All of a sudden they don't have to worry about mechanical linkages and they can't fucking help themselves but make you shift it into drive by tonguing a clit on the ceiling.
I know your mommy didn't let you go into art school, doesn't mean you get to take your creativity out on me.
Currently using a prius C. In theory I'd prefer to have an EV, but I just don't have a consistent place to charge, and I already outright own my existing car.
Currently working on trying to reduce my use of my existing car. Because at the end of the day an ebike will always be better than any type of car.
I've been waiting for 3 things: An income that can afford a new car, EVs with 500+km of range (I make regular trips through regions with poor charging infrastructure, and experience winter), and for my current ICE car to kick the bucket.
The first two have come to pass. Just waiting on that last one.
I was an early adopter, and I went back to gas. My car only had like a 30 mile range though, which was cut in half during the winter. I'd consider that new Mustang SUV though, that looks like a bad-ass vehicle.