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Electric Vehicles

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Electric Vehicles are a key part of our tomorrow and how we get there. If we can get all the fossil fuel vehicles off our roads, out of our seas and out of our skies, we'll have a much better environment. This community is where we discuss the various different vehicles and news stories regarding electric transportation.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Typically I prefer my appliances soulless.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Not surprising that someone who calls a vehicle an "appliance" would say something like this.

For some people (myself included), driving is more than something you're required to do to get from point A to point B. Driving is an experience, something meant to be enjoyed.

I love the feeling of the car communicating with the road through the tires, suspension, and steering, and throughout my body. I like to feel like the vehicle and I are a single entity, and not just something to be driven, something I'm fighting to control. Which is why I prefer small, sporty, nimble roadsters with firm, communicative suspension, and hydraulic rack and pinion steering. Not a giant boat of a crossover that handles like I'm floating on a cloud, with electric steering that vaguely goes in the direction I point the wheel.

I drive not just because I have to, but also because I enjoy doing it. Not having the right car is detrimental to my enjoyment. I need a car with soul. (Just not a Kia Soul.)

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

You and I are on completely opposite sides when it comes to vehicles. Driving is what I do to get to the thing I actually want/need to do. It's the price I pay to do the things I want when they can't be done "here". The only reason I don't have someone drive for me is because I can't afford that. The only reason I don't have a computer do it for me is because we haven't made one good enough to do it, and I hope it happens soon. If I could teleport to my destination and get back the years of my life spent in a car waiting to do something else, I would. If the odds of my turning into a fly were less than 50% over 50 years, I'd still strongly consider it. As for fighting to control my vehicle, that just sounds like a second job, and I don't want to pay to have one of those.

I get that all those things sound like "soul" to you, but they all sound like "work" and "wasted time" to me.

[–] madnificent@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

I'm in your boat but I also care about the planet. I know that not doing everything for commuters today, will mean I will not be able to enjoy my mx5 na, 944 and similar in the future.

I think us petrolheads have a choice: make sure as much as possible is turned green or stop dreaming about true lightfooted joy on the road in the future. I'm thus very positive about electric cars because they are great for almost everyone and most fears are just not warranted. I want as many dinosaur burners as possible to be replaced as quickly as possible so 15 years down the road I can step in a Mercedes W123 or old Citroen DS and know where I am by the smell of it.

Just about everything I drive now is electric. The first gen Model S is okay in terms of communication, even though it weighs too much it is mechanical. It is too fast to be fun. The last gen BMW i3 is zippy and quite fun to drive but many assume they need 400km range on a daily basis and it's not that. If budget doesn't matter, I assume a first gen Tesla Roadster should effectively be fun if you retrofit the charger, it convinced many reporters in its day. The electric drivetrain really lends itself to feeling one with the machine.

We should have our voices heard. We want light communicative cars. But we should get as many as possible on the EV train if we want to enjoy our old toys in the future.