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Chinese startup Z.ai (formerly Zhipu) just released GLM-4.5, an open-source agentic AI model family that undercuts DeepSeek's pricing while nearing the performance of leading models across reasoning, coding, and autonomous tasks.

Alibaba's Tongyi Lab just launched Wan2.2, a new open-source video model that brings advanced cinematic capabilities and high-quality motion for both text-to-video and image-to-video generations.

This is an interesting commentary on how China & the US are approaching AI development very differently. China and the US are Running a Different AI Race End of the day, business strategies are market-driven

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Unitree's older G1 robot was $16,000 - it will be interesting to see if the R1 has its capabilities. It should be noted that the full spec R1 costs $16,000, but the lowest spec one is $5,900. This has been primarily designed as a research, development, and demonstration platform. The G1 achieved some remarkable success in that. The G1 model has been used in teleoperated medical procedures e.g., ultrasound‑guided injections, emergency ventilation, palpation.

If Chinese manufacturing can build limited test models at this price, then economies of scale suggest that in a few years, it can mass produce them much cheaper. The future will likely be filled with humanoid robots that cost a small fraction of even the cheapest car.

People think of future economies as dominated by UBI & corporate feudalism. But what if it's a world filled with people owning several robot workers each, and bartering and trading the products of their work?

China’s Unitree Offers a Humanoid Robot for Under $6,000

 

Alongside the terrible price in human suffering and death, the two world wars spurred aviation, and with Germany's V2 rocket, started the space age. Hopefully, this time around, we can get some of the technological benefits while keeping the war to a stand-off with no fighting.

Much of this money will be spent in Europe. Germany is passing a law to restrict bidders for new projects to EU-based, and the EU may soon move to ban much of American AI.

Historically, small to medium-sized firms have been the backbone of European industry, and Germany has excelled under this model. Will it be the same for whatever new tech comes out of these developments?

Spy cockroaches and AI robots: Germany plots the future of warfare

 

"In early June, TSMC Chairperson C.C. Wei confirmed that demand for chips used in humanoid robots is growing rapidly. As per the Economic Daily News, TSMC projects that by 2030, 1.3 billion AI robots will be deployed, creating a market worth $35 billion. This number is expected to surge to 4 billion by 2050, including 650 million humanoid robots, the report adds."

Robotics is advancing so rapidly I think these projections may be possible. If anything, the 2050 figure for 650 million humanoids underestimates their numbers. I am sure there will be a vast, perhaps bigger, market of knock-off cheaper Chinese models that won't be as good as top quality producers, but often good enough for the price. That's the way it is with many other products today.

Needless to say, none of these people seem to anticipate any economic problems ahead with all the hundreds of millions of human jobs being replaced.

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[–] Lugh 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Yeah they mention it can reduce stress on joints, for people with arthritis and other conditions this could be a lot more than a hiking toy.

[–] Lugh 7 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I've no relationship with the company! In fairness, it does seem to work. I posted it as it seemed quite cool.

[–] Lugh -2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I disagree. There are definitely people who sincerely believe in AI 'consciousness'. Ironically, they are usually the first to throw about terms like 'woo woo' in any discussions about human consciousness.

[–] Lugh 3 points 4 months ago (4 children)

When it gets to the point AI is self-recursively improving itself, is this a version of 'life' as we know it? Perhaps with humans as the ultimate parent? In a sense those AIs would be our descendents.

My problem with Big Tech leading these efforts, is that they are so often anti-human welfare, why would we trust them with the issue of anyone else's? Big Tech's desire to have zero regulation is an expression of how little concern they have for other humans. The ease with which all the Big Tech firms help the military slaughter tens of thousands of civilians is another. I can't help thinking they'll use any effort to elevate AI 'welfare', to harm the interests of inconvenient humans, which means most of us to them.

[–] Lugh 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Corresponding author of the paper Dr Ana Angelova Volponi, King’s College London, said: “As the field progresses, the integration of such innovative techniques holds the potential to revolutionise dental care, offering sustainable and effective solutions for tooth repair and regeneration.

Growing a tooth is one thing, I wonder how hard integrating it into a mouth will be. These teeth need to integrate with nerves and blood vessels.

[–] Lugh 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They mention people will own them outright after 6 years. So it's free electricity from that point onwards.

[–] Lugh 4 points 4 months ago (5 children)

This is an innovative model. They are working with people on low incomes, renters and apartment dwellers. All people cut out of traditional rooftop solar. People will be paying $35 a month for two free-standing 7 by 4 feet panels. There doesn't seem to be any upfront cost, though a qualified electrician needs to install them.

If those two panels generate more than $35 worth of electricity a month, then this seems like a no brainer.

[–] Lugh 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes.

There are probably quite a few inflection points coming, and that is one of them.

I think another is when they are capable of most unskilled work (supermarket shelf stacking, cleaning, etc), but cost less to employ than humans paid Western-country minimum wages.

[–] Lugh 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Humanoid robots, like all technologies, will be adopted on an s-curve. First, there will be just a few of them, and then rapidly they will be everywhere, as their adoption heads for market saturation.

Are humanoid robots ready for their s-curve take off phase? Seeing Xpeng's IRON humanoid in action might make you think they are. Xpeng say they expect to start mass-producing these next year, and say they are investing $13.8 billion to scale production.

IRON's specs look impressive. Xpeng says it operates at 3,000 TOPS of processing power with their Turing AI chip. For reference, Microsoft's baseline for an AI PC is 40 TOPS (Trillions of Operations Per Second).

[–] Lugh 5 points 4 months ago

The world is full of economic alliances with acronyms. The EU, ASEAN, and the G7 are just some. The EU functions more as a nation-state, while most are much looser. The BRICS alliance, founded in 2009 by Brazil, Russia, India, and China (hence the name) has significant differences from the others.

Its primary goal is to create an alternative to the existing global economic order dominated by the West/US. In particular, it seeks to create alternatives to the dollar-dominated world trade system, SWIFT interbank payment system, and IMF & World Bank.

So far, it hasn't made huge progress with this agenda. The US dollar's role in global trade is firmly embedded. The only other currency that comes close in volume/importance is the Euro. As China doesn't allow its currency to float freely or have open capital markets, the Chinese Renminbi can't currently replace the dollar's international role.

But is this about to change? The current US administration rejects much of the old global economic order. Ironic, considering it originally created it. Since 2009 China and Russia have even more reasons to want a global financial alternative the US doesn't have a role in. Maybe the US is helping them to create it?

[–] Lugh 3 points 4 months ago

Alien life on exoplanets is in the news after possible biosignatures were found on K2-18b, 124 light-years away. The gas dimethyl disulfide hints at life, but it's not proof.

A new coronagraph design could boost the search for alien microbes by improving exoplanet atmosphere analysis. Detecting life through atmospheric chemistry will likely be how we first confirm it.

There are several space telescopes from ESA, NASA and China due for launch in the next ten years that will improve on current abilities. However, it's possible definitive proof may even come before then with current space telescopes.

The James Webb Space Telescope detected the dimethyl disulfide on K2-18b, and it is lined up to look at other alien-life candidate exoplanets in the coming months and years.

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