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[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

These people are swallowing the hype without even testing the tools.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's all to grift investors and CEOs who surrounded themselves with yes men get the same news as investors.

We literally can't get it with silicon chips, because silicon is a solid.

I was literally just watching some videos with a panel of the world leading physicists in this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdzXbIW9kxY

None of these tech bros understand what consciousness is, they're operating on way out of date oversimplified explanations and assuming there's nothing deeper.

The hope is that we don't actually need consciousness to produce something useful. And ultimately, that would be for the best. If we know definitively that silicon computing cannot result in consciousness, then many of the ethical concerns of using AIs disappear. You still have the ethical concerns of replacing human labor and using stolen work to train them, but at least you don't have to worry about creating a slave race in the process.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody understands what consciousness is - nor is that even relevant here. Artificial Super Intelligence that isn’t conscious is a perfectly coherent concept. While it’s valid to discuss whether a system like that could be conscious, there’s absolutely no reason to assume it needs to be.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Artificial Super Intelligence that isn’t conscious is a perfectly coherent concept.

Yes...

If you don't know what youre talking about. It's sounds plausible....

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Well please educate me then. What am I wrong about?

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Have you actually tested these tools? Because while they’re not flawless, I’d still say that even in their current form, they’re pretty damn good.

I love how quickly we get used to things. ChatGPT would’ve been considered straight-up magic ten years ago - and now we’re just shitting on it for the edge cases where it gets something blatantly wrong, while completely dismissing the countless times it does exactly what it’s supposed to.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

I have, they degrade very significantly whenever the context goes to 8000+ tokens.

[–] nimpnin@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s approaching the lower levels of human reasoning, which, as we have realized over the past few years, isn’t that impressive.

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I bet at least half of the major models would fall for disinformation and vote for fascists. The Turing test is seeing if the AI will commit hate crime using legal justification, right? Definitely by next year.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I bet at least half of the major models would fall for disinformation and vote for fascists.

And what is this assumption based on?

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 2 points 1 day ago

Von der Leyen certainly boarded the hype train some time ago.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It certainly has approached their level of reasoning, I agree

[–] Commiejones@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 day ago

This is pretty funny. eu politicians (especially von der leyen) all seem to just regurgitate word salad based on what the Mainstream Media is saying despite the fact that those same media sources are consistently hallucinate "unnamed insiders" or "people familiar with the mater" whose "information" turns out to be the opposite of reality.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 points 1 day ago

That speech is not saying much. It's just "AI is coming and we need an unknown amount of money for that." Nothing on how that money is used or how they'll deal with anything related to this.

[–] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

The reasoning level of a human? No.

The reasoning level of Ursula von der Leyen? Maybe.

Not even a fucking chance.