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[–] Staines@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China is ending war, but at what cost?

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

Less dead babies of [BAD COUNTRY]? The gall! The evils of gommulism know no bounds!

[–] SerLava@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Just found out that most rare earth minerals aren't even that rare, it's just that China has built up the only major capacity to refine them. Very cool!

[–] dead@hexbear.net 69 points 1 day ago (6 children)

after 5 years, why is hexbear still posting screenshots of headlines without linking the article?

https://fortune.com/2025/10/12/china-rare-earth-export-controls-trump-tariffs-us-trade-war/

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

It's literally the same user doing it. How we triumph over this evil, I don't know.

[–] abc@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

thank you, you get me

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[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This has actually been the case for quite some time, and the west just kind of walked right into it because no central planning. I posted about it a while ago when China declared all rare earth minerals belonged to the state. The situation is not at all akin to the fossil fuel industry where Russia or Saudi Arabia or Venezuela control massive reserves, but are still just one of many major producers. China wields an effective monopolistic share over several critical rare earth mineral resources to the point that ramping up production anywhere else in the world is not even feasible without direct state intervention to subsidize the industry in order to circumvent long long LONG term unprofitability, and even then China also has a monopoly on actually processing these materials.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is a lot of Sinophobia right now* because China planned for actual reality while Americans argued about whether 2 + 2 is woke, invested in pictures of apes, and built a police state rather than infrastructure.

*(Just to be clear: The comment I replied to isn't Sinophobic, but there are a lot of breathless articles who seem to think a nonwestern country acting in its best interests is an attack.)

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

I completely agree. When people say “China is living in 2100” the reality is that China is living in 2025 and that everybody could be seeing improvements like this in their lives if they lived under proper and conscious economic planning

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Should have kept a tight lid on gunpowder, too. Thanks Temujin, now the cumskins have guns. Are you happy?

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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 72 points 1 day ago

Why won't China give the USA the means and materials to harm them in the future? thats-why-im-confused

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago
[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 66 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I've predicted it before, and every news story has me more convinced- the US is heading towards a military coup, probably after Trump makes himself a dictator and we lose a war with Iran. America's Caesar/Napoleon will be a liberal driller type who makes moderate wokeness and abundance the national religion, but reindustrializes the country like Stalin.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 61 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

reindustrializes the country like Stalin

That simply will not happen. Capitalism without central planning doesn't fully industrialize in that manner or at that speed.

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm predicting that Liberal Caesar will introduce central planning, realizing it's the only way to make the US a world power again. I said "like Stalin" as a joke, but they'll make the US into a State Capitalist mixed economy where the commanding heights are under effective state control in order to reindustrialize.

[–] juniper@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago (16 children)

they'll make the US into a State Capitalist mixed economy where the commanding heights are under effective state control in order to reindustrialize

I can't tell if this is a bit.

The US will absolutely not reindustrialize to any meaningful degree. They are still in the process of stealing the copper wire, and you think they'll aquiesce to state control?

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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

but reindustrializes the country like Stalin.

This is not going to happen:

  1. The Wall Street finance capital will not allow it
  2. The US spent decades killing trade union movements by de-industrializing itself, it’s not going to want to have to deal with labor movements once again
  3. Trump has no industrial policy, is cutting federal government funding on key sectors especially academia and sciences, and mass laying off federal employees

Does this look like re-industrialization to you?

What is happening with Trump’s global tariffs is becoming clear though:

The US is leveraging China’s vast industrial capacity to destroy the European economy. Have you noticed that European car manufacturers and green tech sector are being destroyed by China’s vastly cheaper and superior products?

Yeah, good luck dealing with that. The EU economy is cooked, and what’s going to happen is a massive harvest by US finance capitalism as they did to the USSR 30 years ago.

Perhaps it will be like what Varoufakis says, the EU will be coerced into de-industrializing itself and import from the US manufacturers, swapping the role with the US to prop up whatever is left of the US industrial base.

Meanwhile, Trump’s tariff is forcing China to dump its surplus export goods on the rest of the Global South. The latest trade numbers on China’s export shows that its export has grown 8.3% yoy in September!

What this means is that we’re about to see a full blown mercantilist fight in the Global South as many exporter countries find their domestic industries unable to compete with the cheap Chinese goods flooding their countries, so they have to either make a deal with the US, or be forced to take IMF/foreign loans to bail out their failing economy. And by doing so, the US reshapes the global supply chain through its finance capital as we see a bailing out through IMF/foreign loans on a scale never seen before (Argentina is taking a lead on that).

The above is only made possible because:

  1. The Ukraine war has destroyed Europe’s energy sovereignty and negated their ability to expand the EU consumer market to replace those of the US
  2. Covid pandemic has stalled China’s attempt to transition into a domestic consumption led economy, and with the investment-led property bubble bursting, forcing it to return to relying even more on exporting EVs and solar panels to make up for the drop in GDP growth

The only way out of this is for China to abandon the neoliberal export-led growth model, run up its fiscal deficit (by giving jobs guarantee) to offset the loss in export and investment to drive up a 1.4 billion consumer market that capable of absorbing the global surplus capacities.

This will stop the exporter countries’ reliance on selling to the US, and when countries no longer have to run a trade surplus against America, the dollar becomes useless. This is how you properly de-dollarize.

[–] Parzivus@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago

It does kinda feel like we're due for an FDR 2.0 to take the pressure off if America isn't gonna go full fascism, but things are gonna have to get a lot worse for that to happen. Life is mediocre now but we're not close to Great Depression levels yet

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I also predict this. Yanquis love the fucking milliary so much they would gladly lick the boots of a "reasonable" junta. I've pitched it to libs in real life just to get a sense of their acceptance and like half are like "ooh what a good idea!" like it doesn't undermine the very foundations of their precious constitutional governance. Worse part is it probably would be better than the sham democracy we have, but they simply do not understand what life under a milliary regime is like.

Would be pretty ironic though considering the history if US backed coups. At least Latin Americans could get a good laugh in.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

Lmao libs that won’t arrest Trump for trying to overthrow the government because it will “undermine democracy” will acquiesce to the Beautiful Generals taking control to restore “the norms”

[–] icdmize@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

It's a good thing we're not angering them with 200% tariffs or anything... oh wait.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 59 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] jack@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

xi PLS PLZZ XI!!!

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago

lol, I guess Hegseth et al. are investing a trillion dollars in board-with-a-nail-through-it technology? Less F-35c, more Fe-2x4

[–] loaExMachina@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

Please Xi, do a pro gamer move.

[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

when US-NATO keeps openly talking about a future confrontation with China, it will a good idea to permanently ban these heavy rare earths exports that are vital to advanced weapons.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah. however, historically, if you threaten a fascist with not being able to make an even bigger war in the future, they might just immediately go start the biggest war they possibly can right now....

see germany looking at the soviet union and realising they might not be able to take them if they wait and let it get stronger. see japan looking at how much oil they have left after the embargo, realising it's not a lot and doing a pearl harbor.

[–] bobs_guns@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like USA is doing its best to spread itself thin with Ukraine, Palestine, and Venezuela already. We can hope that war with China has already become impossible.

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Hope China removed Israel from the modern economy.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Any second now

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[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Na'vi's rare earth controls can 'forbid any country on Earth from participating in the modern economy', former Marine officer warns

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

China achieves world peace with this one weird trick

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

China is finally boycotting Israel (and Ukraine) while they are at it.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago
[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

Unlike the US which never does worse using financial tricks.

[–] Ildsaye@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Xi striking the we-are-not-the-same pose

[–] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago
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