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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Step 1) Exit Puberty

Step 2) Have a real socio-economic incentive to get up at 6am.

Step 3) Stop drinking caffeine after 4pm. Stop drinking booze after 8pm. (Stop drinking booze entirely, even)

Step 4) Gene Therapy

Step 5) Find out if you snore. If you're snoring, you're not going to get enough sleep during the night, which will make you groggy af in the early morning.

Step 6) At 6am, when your alarm clock goes off, it helps if you really, really, really need to pee.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Step 6. Got it just drink before bed but then still have to piss middle of the night and then refill bladder mid night.

[–] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Step 7: as soon as you get up, eat a meal. It helps set your internal alarm clock.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Sorry I literally cannot. It makes me feel sick if I eat less than 1-2 hours after waking up.

[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i feel like then I'd be going back to sleep

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[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Some people are just genetically nocturnal. I had one grandparent who was early to bed. Everyone else in my family is somewhere between 12 and 2 am. As we get older we seem to need less and less sleep though. By 70, my nan was averaging 4 hours. Up to bed at 1, up a 5am to teach her 6am colege classes.

My other grandma slept 3x 2 hour bouts thought the day my whole life. 2hr nap around lunch, another after dinner, then shed be up til 2am, and 'go to bed' just to be back up around 4am. I think that had somwthing to do with her living most her life off the grid and having a wood stove got heat her whole life.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Some people are just genetically nocturnal.

Sure. See Step (4).

Although, you tend to require (or, at least, feel inclined towards) less sleep as you age.

I think that had somwthing to do with her living most her life off the grid and having a wood stove got heat her whole life.

Better than needing to piss is waking up freezing cause your feet are out of the covers

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[–] BootLoop@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You're missing one big step and that is consistently keep this routine. For best results you have to keep it going through the weekends as well.

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[–] andrew0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Get a dog. I'm now forced to get up early to take it out, otherwise it will pee on my bed.

(Do not actually get a pet if you cannot take care of them.)

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 55 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Also, children will do this to you.

(DO NOT actually have children if you are just trying to wake up earlier.)

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

A tamagotchi will also do this.

(DO get a tamagotchi if you are trying to wake earlier)

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[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Even better, try two puppies. Sleep will be your last problem now.

[–] 5in1k@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am up at 5:15 every weekday, my dog stays in bed until I make her go outside and pee before I leave at 5:55. If left to her own devices she'll want out around 9am. Mileage may vary

[–] Doctorbllk@slrpnk.net 37 points 1 month ago (3 children)

For those actually wanting to do it: you start with the morning, not with the bed time. Regardless of when you go to sleep, gotta force yourself up a the time you want to wake. By the time 10p rolls around, now you're ready for sleep. But you're gonna start off with a very sleepy day.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

Wake up on time no matter what, no naps, and follow good bed time hygiene (caffeine, screens, temperature, etc). It will take some time but your body will adjust.

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After decades of thinking I couldn’t do this it was rather easy in the end. I just started being more consistent with bedtime and not napping.

I also got into running, rock climbing, and being outdoors more often. Now I wake up before my alarm.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Early to rise and early to bed makes a man healthy but socially dead.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

“Early to bed and early to rise makes Jack’s wife go out with other guys” - The Warner Brothers

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Work in a manual labor job so you're tired enough that you actually WANT to go to bed at 10

[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wish I got to wake up at 6 when I worked a manual labor job. It was more like 4:45

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Yeah manual labour jobs start earlier then getting up at 6 allows.

I'm always blown away by TV shows where everyone wakes up, has a shower sits down makes breakfast and leave for work at like 9

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[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 18 points 1 month ago

My wife has to be at work before 5 every day. We need to keep making our mortgage payment because paying off our shitty house is our best hope at maybe at least a partial retirement before I die. If the house is paid off, and I'm able to collect social security, maybe I'll be able to be able to only work part time. I have no retirement funds

So we're both up around 4 every day. And in bed between 8 & 9p. If you just get up early every day because you have to, at some point you're too tired to stay up late. The answer is necessity and responsibility.

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This just happened naturally to me as I got old…

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Get a kid between 1-4 years old

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[–] village604@adultswim.fan 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Unironically, touching grass is how you can do this.

Going camping for several days without screen time can help reset your circadian rhythm to normal.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 1 month ago

I'm usually up way before sunrise because of work schedules. When I go camping, I stay up WAY later because I love to sit in the dark by a campfire. But clearly your results may vary.

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[–] benderation@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago (6 children)

It's a lot easier than people think, in my opinion.

Light is the main thing that sets your circadian rhythms. If you want to sleep at 10 PM, turn off the lights around that time. Fully dark. No phone. Maybe even blackout curtains. Better if it's every single night, including weekends.

Listen to music or a podcast if you're bored laying in the dark. But no light after the time you want to sleep.

You won't fall asleep at 10 the first night. Or the second night. But it'll slowly get earlier and earlier every night.

I've done this many times. When I worked early mornings, I easily adjusted to falling asleep at 8PM by shutting off all lights consistently every night around 7:45.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Just keep going to bed later and later until you run the clock around.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Get a job with consistent hours that suit that kind of sleeping schedule.

Or do what I did, and find a job with hours they already fit your sleep habits. You can still stay up all night go to bed at 5 am every day, when your shift starts at 2! :D

[–] BeefandSquints@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It was the fucking worst but I started waking up early every day and then I added running to it. After about 6 months I fully transformed into a morning person. The second I retire, I'm going back, I miss the night.

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[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago
[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

maintain a routine. Actually get up when your first alarm sounds. Do real physical activity during the day (every day, but less on off days is ok). Don't consume stimulants within 8 hours of bedtime. Don't consume too much depressants (this includes alcohol). DO NOT TAKE A SCREEN TO BED WITH YOU.

Hit most of these and you should be ok. If you're doing all of them and it still isn't working, maybe see a doctor.

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[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here's the one trick that normies don't want you to try : Skip one night of sleep and go to bed exhausted between 8pm and 10pm with the curtains open.

I then started having a shower in the morning before work and playing 2 hours of games.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

I did this many, many times during my struggles with non-24 sleep disorder. I would repeatedly stay up all night in the hopes that I would be tired enough to go to sleep at a reasonable time the next day.

Typically, one of two things would happen: either I successfully go to sleep at a somewhat early hour and then sleep for a few hours before waking up in the middle of the night unable to sleep, or I would feel tired in the early evening but try to hold on until I get to a normal bedtime and by that point I was no longer tired and I'd stay up late again even after being awake well over 24 hours.

Ultimately, my solution was to work on my own projects for a year or so (not something most people can afford to do). I ignored all requirements around sleeping and just slept when my body told me to. I kept windows uncovered and gradually, the sunlight started waking me up at a proper morning hour. For the first time in my adult life, I have a normal sleeping schedule and confidence I can be at my job on time. YMMV, but getting natural sunlight at the same time each day is huge as a circadian rhythm reset.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Drugs. No seriously. Functioning like a normal human requires drugs. Oh and lots of therapy. That helps two

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[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

You need a job that starts at 7

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm reading this at 11pm so don't ask me

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[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Lol bruh I wake up at 530 so my commute is an hour rather than an hour and a half. Only reason

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

9pm: Welp, better start winding down.

10pm: dishes done, everything’s ready for tomorrow.

11pm: let me do one or two things on project #####.

1am: shit i need to wrap this up

4am: dangit

Have a child and work in a factory. That did it for me. I used to be a 2pm to 4am kinda person.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago

While this might help initially, I don’t think it would modify your sleep cycle. I’ve been a heavy pot smoker for 20+ years. The only thing that ended up changing my sleep cycle was getting old. I wake with the sun now.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)
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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 6 points 1 month ago

Don't become a morning person.

Their time will come.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It requires melatonin and a bunch of alarms.

Source: me

[–] RandomStickman@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

Resignment to the 9-5 life

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

Apparently, people really are divided into morning and evening people. This has an evolutionary benefit because the group has a shorter time without at least one keeping an eye out.

So... Genetic treatment.

[–] kubica@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago

I need to go to sleep at 10 so that maybe I can fall sleep around 11, and then the opposite issue in the morning.

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