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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 20 hours ago

Yes, hypocrisy is for neurotypicals. That's why those people will be tattooed with - ah, damn, you got me

[–] roundup5381@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago

Only one way to find out

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago

Maybe if I had a few years to reorganise myself, and that's a big maybe. I've never much cared for money, power, and I'm empathetic to a fault, but being in different environments causes people to change.

The biggest challenge would be staying in touch with the population. You would need a good team of people that represent the interests of human existence and happiness. At that point it's sounding closer to a democracy anyway.

From there, there's obvious moves. Find the biggest sources of misery and damage, reform or just straight up tear it out and start again. You'd need to move moderately slow, moving quickly destabilizes people too much and that is often not worth the cost. Raise social safety nets, try to turn the system from working to survive into one where working to get nice shit.

I feel like I might bankrupt whichever system I'm put in charge of though. Economics was never my strong suit, and I probably would start ignoring economic realities in favour of human existence.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would establish a socialist polity, then abdicate.

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 13 hours ago

Cool you forgot to establish power checked democracy, now you have the soviets. Congrats :)

[–] Emotional@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

would I have to stay a dictator? because I'd be instilling a democracy ASAP

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago

Dictator to reform not to rule

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

The benevolent, uncorrupt, good thing for dictators to do is to abdicate.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 7 points 1 day ago

Absolutley. No more questions!

[–] pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For a couple months, maybe. Anyone who says yes absolutely is someone who shouldn't be trusted with power.

But I know I can be the best dictator ever! 😉

What's that? You disagree? Sounds like I need to send some of my people to your house to educate you on what I'm doing until you can until you can understand that its for the greater good 🤗

(you may not refuse my mandatory education program, I'll be watch you 👀)

-Sincerely,
Your best friend and dictator
🥰

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'd last six hours before becoming Caligula

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

Yes. But I'd probably be killed by someone who will

[–] BurgerBaron@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

Sure. Would I last long before getting killed or overthrown? No.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It is inevitable that an opposition would form against you. You either let the movement continue to gain traction and risk unseating you or you use your power in a corrupt manner to silence them.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In this particular case, it depends what you define as corrupt. If you are truly working towards the betterment of everyone under your power (even those that you are fighting against), then what becomes justifiable to that end?

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Anything. Lies and manipulation will always work on the masses.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Not if you preemptively make what would be an opposition ideology illegal when making the country's constitution

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

No.

Not because I’m evil, but because I am empathetic and someone evil would absolutely figure out a way to use that to manipulate me.

[–] callyral@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I would be completely stressed out, like people would wanna kill me and stuff for being a dictator, so I'd just renounce, run away and get a new identity (not sure how one "gets" a new identity though). Also, managing a country by myself? Too hard, what orders am I even meant to give?

[–] Jhuskindle@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I know I can cause I'd really rather not be a dictator. I take responsibility for EVERYONE all the fuckong time trying to care for that many and feeling the pain and guilt if I fail even one will fuck me up and I'd rather just not do it. Only in extreme times like rn would I even consider it but I'll probably off my self when the reign ends cause I let some kid die because I didn't get healthcare to them fast enough. I'm a softie.

[–] ILikeTraaaains@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I could be benevolent and part of the population would be still against me (slumlords, libertarians, nazis).

After some attempts to kill me I doubt I couldn’t become aggressive against the population who wronged me.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[–] arararagi@ani.social 4 points 1 day ago

They often get killed faster than the evil ones.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Well, I've managed to win every election legitimately in Tropico 5 so far while making sure there's plenty of housing, education, jobs, food, and healthcare.

So guess so.

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

This is explained in the "the rules for rulers" video from cgpgrey, which condenses the book "the dictators handbook".

[–] ratten@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yep.

I actually want to see these cultures change.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I could BE a benevolent dictator, I could never BECOME a benevolent dictator. The process of getting there would exclude me, because I would reject the power structure needed to form the dictatorship in the first place.

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[–] python@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yea! I can't get corrupted or turn evil if I already start out corrupt and evil!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh goodness no. I pray I never come into any real political power.

For fun I've already run the numbers on how many adult humans will fit into the cargo holds of a decommissioned Panamax bulker.

[–] owsei@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Don't worry about it

No I would be killed by a subordinate who wouldn't be.

if I were magically made dictator somehow, no I don't think so. but I'm not cutthroat enough to become a dictator in the first place.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes because I will immediately work on making a sustainable democracy, eventually having checks and balances

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

With my dictatorial powers .... my first action would be to seize and outlaw extreme wealth. No one would be allowed to own more than $1 million.

All the money collected would be used for government and providing a Universal Basic Income for everyone.

And I'd get a designer to make me a big fancy hat.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 41 points 2 days ago (12 children)

That is increadibly hard to do.

  1. How do you define what goes into that 1 million of allowed wealth? If I buy a house worth 950000, would I only be allowed to save 50000.
  2. what about if the house increase in value so that it is worth 2 million, should I just accept that I loose 1 million? What about stocks?
  3. Inflation or Deflation, when/how will you update that limit?
[–] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Property doesn't count and you don't get to own more than one property.

[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 days ago

I agree with your take on this. I think 1M is way too low. But 1 Billion... It's a bit easier to imagine the "you can't or the dictatorship will seize something" idea.

The reality is that the wealthiest people usually influence the most

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I would rock that shit, literally my dream job, practical problem solver with infinite power.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No. Although "turning evil" isn't what happens to those guys, exactly.

Dictators, in the sense of one man rule, don't actually exist. What an autocracy does have is a first among equals in a system where everyone is "looking over their shoulder". Even if someone who genuinely wants to make life great for the people takes power, there's severe limits to how they can do that.

Gorbachev is a great example of this. He was an idealistic person, and thought it would be good if the USSR switched to real democracy. Pretty immediately there were multiple coups until he was out of power, because anybody remotely high up the hierarchy had too many skeletons in their closet to allow that.

In the end, a dictator only gets to choose what kind of nightmarish dictatorship they want.

[–] nikosey@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

how dare you question my benevolence. to the pits with you.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Relevant CGP Grey.

From the point of view of "can you hold power and not let your heart of hearts be corrupted?" - Yeah, sure, why not? The problem is that as soon as you have a significant amount of power, someone else is going to want it. Probably someone with fewer scrupals. So you will quickly be forced into utilitarian thinking - you must do whatever is necessary to maintain your position of power, lest you be usurped by someone worse. And what is necessary to maintain power, to a common person, is often corruption, violence, and austerity for the people.

yes. I think a lot of people can. the thing is, the people who can won't be the runs running for office

[–] Inucune@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

I wouldn't be fucking kids and sending goon squads after minorities and into cities to harass my political opponents if that is what you are asking.

The 'not evil' bar is currently riding on the same high speed train the Republicans put their goalposts on.

[–] DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago

It's really difficult. Not because you will turn evil of your own free will, but because you will have to do terrible things to maintain stability and to keep yourself from being usurped by spies. If you became dictator of any country, you would immediately start to get attacked from many sides by both spies and also revolutionaries who think of themselves as the good guy. In order to do anything it takes time. This is the only way to win the people over. Becoming a dictator is no doubt going to lead to massive economic decline in the near term unless you become a right wing dictator who has favor with the business and merchant classes. If you try to actually become a benevolent dictator and actually free the people, most of the people you would think were your allies would also blame you for everything that is wrong and turn against you, the business class would fund propaganda against you. The internationalists would fund your opposition to gain back their foreign claims to your industry and minerals.

People will feel as if they have every right to criticize you in every way, if you don't oppress them, but if you do, you will rightfully be called a tyrant. If you find your own propaganda you will be called a tyrant, but the people you think would be your allies, will not understand that there is propaganda on the other side.

It's very difficult indeed. Within a few years of taking power you would immediately have to deal with a torrent of spies, foreign media, coups, and whatever else. This is why only right wing governments only ever last more then a few years in history.

Vladimir Lenin is a great example of this, he genuinely saw himself as being benevolent. He was a real communist. He wanted to help the people. Yet he quickly realized once he obtained power that he did not have the support of the majority of the country. He pleaded and appealed to them, he tried to "educate" them on what was needed to achieve communism, mainly just time and their trust. Yet even his first election if he were to have one, he would lose, because already he had become associated with the status quo. The mainstream oppressors of the common people. So he became a tyrant, as all dictators do. Communism gets traded for national socialism and fascism with red paint by the time Lenin is dead. All in an effort to just keep power for a little bit so he could see his communist vision come true. Unfortunately as soon as the bosliviks started to oppress the people they lost the little bit of credibility they had. Just another tyrant, another right wing power obsessed state.

[–] Tracaine@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Nope. And I wouldn't even try. I'm going full evil tyrant, day one.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Hael No!

I'd end up making a dystopic country/nation where people are suffering while I get the brightest scientists to work on genetically modifying the human body so I could become closer to looking like my fursona.

That, and having people on the far left and far right being thrown into prison.

Just normal every day things from someone who's a little paranoid.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd be too much of a lazy dictator to do anything truly evil.

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