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Pretty sure these aren’t actual pics of them btw, just an example of the stamp from that manufacturer.

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[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 67 points 4 days ago (4 children)

"Turkish bullet manufacturer"

They're already claiming this incriminates Hasan, aren't they?

[–] booty@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago

The ammunition, reportedly hand-loaded by left-wing political commentator Hasan Piker, is the ultra-deadly assassin caliber known as 9mm parabellum...

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 22 points 4 days ago

Does the traitor Gülen have an alibi?

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

Turkish people can only but Turkish bullets, those are the rules

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Hahahaha is this actually true?

Edit: please please please is there an actual source for this? This is the funniest thing I’ve seen all day I really want this to be true

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

From what I’m seeing, Turan doesn’t make the caliber associated with the suspected weapon. So this is most likely fake news.

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 11 points 4 days ago

Ah well, nevertheless

[–] Umechan@hexbear.net 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I done know. I couldn't find a source for it being a Turkish bullet, but some articles are linking to the following (paywalled) as a source for the FBI's claims.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/charlie-kirk-shot/card/ammunition-in-kirk-shooting-engraved-with-transgender-antifascist-ideology-sources-pdymd1sXXMSlVRhpvR4b

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Yeah idk the wsj earlier came out uncritically endorsing the document, then the nyt quoted some dude from the atf who said this info was unverified and possibly inaccurate and then Steven Crowder was subpoenaed by the atf for spreading this transgender bullets rumor. So it seems like the wsj is sort of walking it back now. They also had a full article chaos of the manhunt and all the contradictory statements from public officials. So idk the whole transgender bullets thing seems sorta iffy atm. Seems like if they were sure of it they’d be broadcasting it everywhere, not only due to the right’s desire to pin this on trans people and the left more broadly, but also because they keep broadcasting everything else, like the two suspects who they ended up releasing.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

Doubtful because the arms manufactured in question doesn't even seem to manufacture .30-06. My bet is "straight up lie" given that afaik the source is Steven Crowder literally saying "trust me bro"

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

this is somehow stupider than if it were 100% a fabrication

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

these aren’t actual pics of them

Indeed, that is the completely wrong type of round (9x19). If this is true that they thought this was a message, just complete incompetence. Good indication that revolutionary organizing can be done if this is the caliber of investigation these days.

[–] ClathrateG@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

the caliber of investigation

🥁🥁🐍

Shooting a 9x19 rounr out of a hunting rifle is something a fallout 4 raider would do

So this wouldn't match up with the 30.06 part as they currently only manufacturer .308. Maybe the news misreported the caliber, or it's older discontinued stock? Idk...

Either way, wouldn't be surprised if this is what happened, they're a bunch of drunk dip shits.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago

Watching the ongoing "discussion", if someone were going to do an adventurism, the shooter should carve a minor-but-loud subfaction of the enemy to create a split. In this case, "groyp" or "Q" or something. Don't carve an easily targeted minority that you want to defend

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It seems like right wingers have been on the "schoolkids playing pretend" level of narrative creation for a while now

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

Listening to Trueanon was really eye opening just how much these conservatives are obsessed with their primary school LARP where they get to be mystery solving super spy detectives.

[–] whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As dumb as the FBI is, they aren't this stupid. Be for real

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Some chuds got hold of an FBI report, saw the bullet had "TRN" written on it, and being the dumbest people alive who have never touched a rifle in their life ran straight to press.

[–] Blakey@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

Even that's doubtful because Turan don't manufacture 30-06. More likely it's entirely fabricated and the "TRN" is either someone joking about it or, yes, the dumbest investigative "journalism" in the world but without an actual pic of ammo from the shooting.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago

You don't know me, I'm more stupid than you think.

[–] diego_maradona@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

it's all so perfectly stupid

[–] tombruzzo@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (2 children)

OK, but what does the 21 stand for? 21 Pilots, a band liked by girls. And what's 9x18? 420, the demon's number

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why didn’t they include the rest

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

Joe Biden hadn't remembered them yet biden-rember

[–] shads@lemy.lol 5 points 4 days ago

9*18=420, yup sounds like the maths capability I would expect.

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 14 points 4 days ago

9x19 lol ok

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

fedposting "We have reason to believe the shooter's next target is going to be Elon Musk's loop or other car-centric infrastructure due to train-ganger ideology found on the shell casings!"

[–] smokeppb@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

I thought "TRN" was old intel cause they don't make the bullet that was fired. The so-called trans ideology is either "if your reading this you're gay" or the "notices bulge owo" or the other ones maybe but even then these messages just dont track.

I doubt they're that stupid. They're just trying to use everything they can to pin it on trans people and the "radical left"

Political equivalent of throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks

[–] Hohsia@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Stupidity or brazen incompetence?

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

Little bit of both, sprinkle in some bigotry and transphobia and you got yourself a dipshit sundae.

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

my guess is that they know it's 100% stupid and made up but they don't care because they think you'll either buy their BS or be too apathetic to care

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 4 points 4 days ago

IMO more likely they are intentionally disingenuous. They have an axe to grind against trans people, saw an opportunity, and took it.