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Governor Ron DeSantis and state Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo have announced that Florida will work to phase out all childhood vaccine mandates in the state, making it the first in the nation to do so. Vaccines protecting against once-common and sometimes deadly childhood diseases like polio and measles have long been required for children at schools across the U.S.

DeSantis also announced on Wednesday the creation of a state-level "Make America Healthy Again" commission modeled after similar initiatives pushed at the federal level by Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

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[–] Medic8teMe@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Not.looking forward to this. We live in a part of Canada that has so many selfish idiots still going to Florida every winter. They'll bring that shit with them cause they hang out in Florida cause they're Florida man light.

[–] gdog05@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

Wonder how long before you have to report trips to the US before giving blood or such.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

Grand Old Polio

[–] ThisGuyThat@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Doing all they can to increase mortality rates. That's if they publish them.....

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 days ago

Republicans keep killing kids.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 2 days ago

Grand Pappy Nurgle is very pleased with Ron DeSantis.

[–] subignition@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are there any mechanisms whereby states that actually give a shit can forbid Floridian travelers?

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Isn’t it somewhere in the constitutional amendments something states shall not deny movement across borders or something?

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 6 points 2 days ago

Not unless you're a black man with a white woman

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It doesn't explicitly say it but it's been interpreted that way and upheld to the same effect a couple of times. What section 1 (the passage in question) of the 14th amendment actually says is thus:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Basically, the prohibition on the abridgement of rights by a State (as in, one of the US 50 states, not the classical political definition of a sate) means that one state can't prevent you from entering another state. If you can exist in one state you can exist in all of them, and none of the other 49 can say anything about it, and it follows therefore that if you can exist in any state none of them can do anything to keep you out.

This has also been taken to mean that one state can't prosecute somebody for something done in a different state. I.e. New York can't prosecute someone in Florida for violating New York's vaccination laws. It seems at first blush that New York could indeed prosecute somebody if they actually physically went there, but that's a thorny legal issue that calls into question lots of other already established precedents. For instance, the fact that all 50 states recognize each other's drivers licenses and license plates as valid, even though the actual requirements for obtaining either can vary widely between states. California probably really hates that you can drive a car that's not CA smog compliant into their state from, say, Alabama. But ultimately there's nothing they can do about it since the vehicle was indeed legally registered where its owner lives. You couldn't register it in CA but CA can't stop you from registering it in AL.

[–] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Start with their children first and keep following their records. See how far that goes

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah Florida's not big on . . . keeping records. It tends to work against them.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah i think lots of people can receive it prematurely

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Make polio great again

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

ffs someone just stab him already

[–] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Florida really trying to be the graveyard of the US

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Governor Abbott of Texas is probably kicking himself for not thinking of this nonsense first. Too bad for him that his most recent “special session” is over with. I won’t be surprised to see his cohorts scrambling to add it as an agenda item next time.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

No need, they already had measles kill a couple of children and permanently weaken hundreds more. Hell, it’s ol’ Death Santis that missed that boat!

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 4 points 2 days ago
[–] Arancello@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Does this mean that any Floridians could be infectious disease carriers? In your next meeting in a big city (Washington?, LA?, Chicgo? Etc) the person next to you or in the plane you arrived on, could be a carrier. So gloves and masks will become de rigueur atire!

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Hence why they will be outlawed and punishable with immediate extrajudicial deportation to a human-trafficking regime.

See, it’s all about the logistics. And the brainworms.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

Some of us do get vaccinated

[–] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I say fuck them. Let them Darwin themselves off. Nothing of value is lost when they all die off from easily preventable diseases. If they are okay with killing their own kids with this decision, let them do so. Others can always get vaccinated and still be protected, the idiots will remain stupid and choose not to. Fewer republican idiots around to vote is better for Florida.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's not how infectious diseases work.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

The CDC says this is fine!*

* Well they will soon enough, anyway.

[–] artifex@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago

The ethics of that statement aside, you do understand that lots of people travel in and out of Florida every single day, right?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

Others can always get vaccinated and still be protected

That is not actually true.

Vaccination does not confer perfect immunity. You are less likely to contract the disease; you are not perfectly immune.

The primary benefit of vaccination only comes when a critical percentage of the population is vaccinated. Vaccination reduces the risk of propagating the disease. Even though you may not be immune, you won't contract the illness because nobody around you is carrying it.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Florida the leper colony, coming to a city near you real fucking soon

[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Really wants to earn that Death Sentence title, huh?

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I already hated FL with the passion of a 1000 Suns.

Let that state burn with climate change and flood over until it disappears below the waves... NOW!