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In the 12 months to April 2025, 6,100 Irish people emigrated to America. But the figure for Americans emigrating to Ireland was a third higher, at 9,600. The fact that this number has suddenly jumped by 96% suggests it might not be a permanent trend, but while it lasts, it might be a significant one, especially for Ireland.

3 million Americans hold an Irish passport, and 10s of millions more are eligible for one. Add to that, Italian passports are easy to obtain for Americans with Italian ancestry. An Irish or Italian passport is an EU passport, meaning you can work, start a business, and reside freely anywhere in the EU as an EU citizen. Even after Brexit, Ireland and the UK allow each other's citizens to work and reside freely in each other's countries, too.

Might the centuries-long trend of European-American emigrant traffic be about to reverse, too?

96% jump in number of people coming from the US to live in Ireland

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[–] WarlockLawyer@lemmy.world 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] hanrahan@piefed.social 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

As an Australian, same.

No EU relatives I can use a a crutch :( i had thought of moving to France but under Le Pen they seem to want to go fascist anyway. :(

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

What is wrong with Australia? You do get used to everything being upside down, right?

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Lugh 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

its eligibility criteria to those with Italian parents or grandparents.

That's the existing criteria for Irish passports. I'd guess the number of Americans with one grandparent born in Ireland or Italy must run to 10s of millions.

[–] Nico_198X@europe.pub 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

yeah but most Americans are lazy af. they're not all jumping at the opportunity. it's pretty hard to do complete the process, for Italy as least. dunno about Ireland.

[–] CanadaPlus 2 points 4 days ago

Don't forget complacent, how many are seriously thinking about leaving? And that's not even just America but the whole West, although I'd hope we're learning.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

If I was single there is a good chance I would be in ireland.

[–] CanadaPlus 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Hmm, I never thought of this as futurology.

I'm poking around a bit about what passports I might be able to get (besides Israel). Canada's great right now, but it wouldn't be as a state.

Ireland needs to check their phones and make sure they DO contain anti-Trump and anti-JDVance memes.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

A third higher? Looks 50% higher.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I assume they are talking about the not-given number of people going from USA to Ireland.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, it says that number has jumped by 96%.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What "no"?

But the figure for Americans emigrating to Ireland was a third higher, at 9,600. The fact that this number has suddenly jumped by 96%

9'600 is 96 % more than the previous value. It has nothing to do with the 6'100 except for the countries being the same.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So what's the third higher reference?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sorry I am lost now. What exactly is still unclear?

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What does the increased by a third figure refer to. The change in yhebdelayou are unclear, lol.

It says the number of Americans immigration to Ireland is a third higher than the Irish emigrants. But it's more like 50% higher. You suggested that maybe it was the American figure that changed by a third, but it changed by 96%.

So what does the third refer to? I suspect it's a misunderstanding of a 50% increase means that the excess is a third of the total.

2 to 3 is a 50% increase. 2 is 1/3 less than 3.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Your last line. They used it wrong, using the "higher number" as the basis for the relative change from the perspective of the smaller number. Does not make sense.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Lol, so you agree with my initial comment?

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes. I completely missed your point earlier.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

No dramas. The article is confusing was my reason for posting.