fucking everything kind of sucks right now.

What is making you stink discord isn't also selling all its data to AI companies?

What prevents Discord from selling the chat logs to AI companies?

Let them scrape. AI as it currently is, is still autocomplete with extra steps, and still prone to hallucination. As it is it will be usable to make cheap, passable content, but not hit those moments of inspiration of human art (yet -- there are real AI groups looking to make AGI)

It is a bubble which will pop and AI will be seen as a tool (a resource-costly tool) that requires its own set of experts independent from the experts that use ACAD or write editorial copy or do investigative work. Id est, it's not the replacement of employees that boards of directors want it to be.

And AGI is centuries from being efficient enough that you can make Rosie the Robot who cleans your house and makes a good upside-down pineapple cake.

I have never understood why people moved stuff to the closed Discord server system..

Self hosting is the way.

You forgot about influencers who will read your knowledge and present as theirs in their videos.

The forum I call home tolerates a lot of hate speech.

I think I'm out, but it's less about the AI scraping and more about moderation.

Is that what we're up against? I thought every time I voice my mind on forums it gets upvoted or downvoted or ignored, but always ultimately ignored 🤷🏼‍♀️.

And that's why ketchup makes an excellent fuel additive.

Porque no los dos?

Discord is targeting an IPO by end of year. I doubt the AI bubble bursts by then.

Anyone wanna bet against their valuation being based on AI training data value?

Discord is one of the greedy AI companies training on your data

Its been shit since covid. Everyone constantly online, and really ramping up the stupid as fuck culture wars. "Back in my day" I could log into a chat room, have some fun conversations, and then log off without getting pissed off or pissed on. I could look at movie news, and not be swapped by performative hate or praise for whatever fucking movie is or isnt "woke".

Everywhere you go, you see "Be civil" or "Be respectful". But all that really means is, dont question out echo chamber. And if you do, well, turns out not being civil towards you doesnt count.

Left and right doesnt matter. Its all hate and performative praise as far as the eye can see.

IDGAF about LLM bots scraping public forums, they are public and available to anyone. I do mind them scraping shadow libraries, and training on copywritten material, which they should not do

Oh my dude, that second ship sailed decades ago.

Time was there was really just one place (maybe two) where you could find an answer to a question. (Usenet mostly.)

Now there's easily two dozen at least, from SO/SE, Quora, Yahoo Answers, all the way to Reddit subs....

The balkanization of information. It screwed the knowledge of the public, but it made a few people super rich. Whee

If I'm going to share my information and knowledge publicly on an Internet site, I'd like everyone to have fair and open access to it, not at the whims of a multinational corp to gatekeep for me. So the fact that AI can access it too doesn't discourage me.

You have information from me because I choose to share it, not because a site has demanded I give it up without a clear benefit to me in return.

Counter offer: Be a huge nerd and hang out on Lemmy instead.

You'll probably be scraped by AI bots anyway, but we have penguins and Star Trek memes. And knives.