Mildly Infuriating

The idea that you get to put a stake in the ground and then that plot of dirt yours forever is insane. The amount of infrastructure projects in Denmark that are put on hold indefinitely because locals are upset, not at being forced to move, but because they think they own their land and the view, is nuts.

Gestures in eminent domain.

Careful, you might get a ban from .ml for saying that

It helps that in China you can’t own land. All the land is owned by the government. You only have “use rights” and for a limited time (something like 80 years - I forget the exact number). So when it comes time to build infrastructure the government just tells you to gtfo.

No just any shit, shit that helps everyday people living in their country.

I'm just thinking of the major cities in my U.S. state where the public transit map, before and after, looks like Chengdu in 2010. So as unfortunate as the circumstances are in Toronto, they can be even worse.

Meanwhile Hamburg, Germany with only 1.8 Million:

DONT BRING NUANCE AND LOGIC TO A SENSELESS FEELINGS-BAITING POST! It doesn’t MATTER the city layout over top of it, the context of rapid and rampant industrialization in China, or something as inconsequential as number of people!

NYC with almost half of the population of Chengdu.

I don't know about Canada but the USA has been pro-child factory work lately. China's wages have been rising faster than expected so they have gone all-in on automation. So when I see people claim their stuff is cheap because of "slavery" or human rights, it reads like projection.

!meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

Lemmy has tankie problem.

We don’t have to agree with China’s politics to appreciate that they did a positive thing. And we shouldn’t have to emulate their politics to get a thing done. We should be able to do it

What helps is that the aumomotive/gas industry lobby there isnt so effective.

We have had industrial accidents and deaths as well... We may have better safety standards but going from no subway system to a massive full city system more robust than Western countries in a fraction of the time is pretty remarkable.

Digging tunnels is dangerous. Especially if you dont have a century of experience to build off of.

I'm posting an absolute shit ton of content to support Lemmy.

You aren't the first one to notice :)

Not to undermine your point on the demand, but note that Chengdu's population has grown <7 million since phase 1 of Line 1 (the 18.5km middle quarter of the navy purple line; for reference the green Toronto line is 26.2km) was opened, while the decades that preceded this saw the city having similar population growth rates to Toronto.

The maps above also seem to be differently scaled.

The Toronto map is ~2x more-a-zoomied-in, judging by the distances between the farthest stations. In 2024, looking at the track maps, the driving distance between the farthest stations (Vaghan Met. to Victoria Park) is 36km while that of Chengdu (天府机场北 to 何公路) is 93 km.

mean....you really don't need an extensive subway network here

Found the 905'er

The streetcar network is a complete shitshow. Multiple streetcars bunched up, with hundreds of people inside, being blocked by a few SUV drivers and parked cars on the side of the street.

Its faster to bike or walk in most cases.

Same for the buses. There's a reason the bus lines here have nicknames like "the sufferin' dufferin"

At grade == weak

Toronto isn't filled with great alternate modes of mass transit so much as it's filled with excuses not to build mass transit.

Let me weep in "Ontario line".

is this why there is no traffic problems in Toronto and commute is not a suicide inducing nightmare?

I wonder why

its sad im over here in Dallas and im envious of Toronto.