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[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I'm very concerned that people who choose to go to France will just find themselves in the exact same situation along with the rest of us not too long from now. I'd advise looking for a country with a lower fascism approval rating...

We do have lots of cheese, though, if it's any consolation.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Honestly the Netherlands seems pretty great.

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[–] Xande@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 weeks ago

Tbf most migrants are either damn smart, hard workers or damn smart hard workers.

So, for a good future we should welcome them!

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

GingTFO isn't actually a huge problem for Americans. I've looked into it and the only reason I'm still here is that my wife refuses to leave and I love her too much to leave her. Dozens of countries will give Americans residency, although citizenship is usually a lot more difficult and/or takes years. There is usually a minimum income requirement, but you don't have to be rich. I've seen it in the $1200-$2k/mo range in multiple places. Of course this has to be income you can still make while you're in the new country, not a US job you're going to give up. Makes it pretty sweet for "digital nomads" tho who can work remotely.

A few countries highly rated by expats are Costa Rica, Panama, Uruguay (esp good environment for LGBTQ+), and Thailand. Vietnam doesn't even have a visa limit - technically it's 3 or 5 years but all you have to do to reset it is go away for like 30 days. There are lots of others. If you want to get started google "Americans moving abroad", there are tons of helpful videos and articles.

[–] razzazzika@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

Germany. I might be able to claim ancestry rights. Ironic that my great grandmother fled fascism in Germany but I'd flee America to return to the motherland.

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[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

I'm Canadian. I don't mind accepting American refugees as long as we also learn to accept refugees from other countries and value them all equally, but our current government isn't doing that.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 8 points 1 month ago

New Zealand is quite lovely; I could afford it and I’m on the expedited list of specialties. Can’t leave the kids, though, so I’m stuck watching the ship go down.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

If I could live in no country I’d be so happy. But the only place to do that is a desert in Africa and my natural habitat is temperate forests.

So I guess Canada.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Dream country? Monaco, lol. But more realistically either Canada, Australia or New Zealand

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

When America sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with them. They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/7764650-when-mexico-sends-its-people-they-re-not-sending-their-best

[–] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 month ago

The funny thing is, the worst of us love the US and what it's becoming. Smart, decent people are the ones talking about leaving.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don’t want to start over. I’d rather die.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

Hey. If yanks get get to Canada, and get in, I'm sure we'd love to have ya.

There's a catch: if you're not fleeing persecution, you're gonna need a skill. It bumps up your score on the big calculation they do, and if you can keep doing the skilled work you may one day afford to live somewhere other than winnipeg.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Even though things aren't going as they should, I wouldn't be likely to leave. I don't agree with a lot of what's happening here, but there's no nation I know that supports more of my beliefs and lifestyle than the USA. Plus, my family, my friends, and my loved ones are all here. Leaving would mean losing them, and that's totally unacceptable.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I’ve lived in NYC for 20 years, I’d only give it up for Barcelona

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago
[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 7 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

I was going to say Italy but they seem to be going fash again so... north sentinel island?

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[–] SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think I’d like to move to Canada. However, I have no money, and do not have a degree or anything like that. I think the plant I work at has operations in Canada, so there might be the possibility of transferring there. Even if the opportunity presented itself, I refuse to leave my son, so I am stuck here.

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[–] Underwaterbob@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Korea is facing a huge population crisis in the not-so-distant future. They already have ties to the U.S., too.

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[–] scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Canada, I'm a citizen there as well

[–] grasshopper_mouse@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Canada, Iceland, New Zealand, or Germany, in no particular order. Then again, of those 4, I've only been to Canada.

Dream? Hard to say since I've never been outside the US. Maybe Ireland?

Reality? Pretty much anywhere that I would have the opportunity to make a living.

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