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I have been getting mail from my back for someone I assume used to live at my place since I moved in. I kept ignoring it, thinking she would change her address eventually. It's been about a year and they are still sending me bank mail for a person I've never met.

This seems like a serious security issue so I called the bank and alerted them to the problem. I was told I would have to find her and get her new address for them so they could change it. This seems.....wrong. I'm alerting you to a security issue with one of your accounts and you need ME to fix it? The agent on the phone said there was nothing they could do without a new address.

I pressed harder and asked them to flag that account so she would have a warning she needs to talk to a banker next time she tries to use her account. Eventually he relented and put a flag on her account.

This seems really sloppy. Do banks just, not care about the mail they send out going to the right place? I'm honestly considering switching to a credit union over this.

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[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

They probably use a third party company to mail statements and such. I wouldn’t be surprised if they have already tried to contact the account owner but are unable to. They still need an address on file for account verification so they can’t exactly remove your address without an updated address from the customer. I don’t know why they asked you though. You wouldn’t have permission to update information on someone else’s account.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Can you name the sloppy bank? Might help some of us out if we are keeping money there.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago

Huntington Bank

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

I don't know where you reside, but can't you write on the back of the envelope containing the letter with "return to sender"? In my country, this is what we do to notify the sender that the addressee no longer lives in the premise.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Same here. We write "verzogen" on the envelope (because the letter has been a bad boy) and either leave it out on top of the letterbox or go throw it into a post collecting box.

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

This.

It's normal here (UK) to write "not at this address" and put it in a postbox. It will be returned for free, and this specific wording lets the sender know it was rejected because the person doesn't live there anymore (rather than because you're simply rejecting it)

[–] jimmux@programming.dev 11 points 21 hours ago

I recently had to get a new card cancelled and reissued because it was sent to an old address. I definitely updated my address with that bank, but it didn't stick.

I've updated my address with other companies and later found that different parts of their system kept different addresses.

Not too long ago I even worked on the address changing section of a finance company's website. That project was a nightmare, and I learned a lot about why address changes are much harder to implement than you would think.

I really wanted to spend more time ironing out edge cases on that one, but I was under a lot of pressure to get it delivered because some genius had already committed to removing the forms we already used for this.

So basically it's possible this person did change their address, at least for some things with that bank, and fixing it might not be something they can do without just the right specific instruction. As long as the bank can demonstrate a good faith attempt to do it right, they are legally covered. Sometimes it's cheaper to compensate for very rare customer losses that result in edge case fuckups, than to pay developers what it would take to fix it properly.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Write, "Return to sender, no longer at this address." On the envelope throw it back in the mail. You've done your due diligence.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I’ve been doing this for 4+ years for the same person and bank. I even showed up in person to the local branch and spoke to a manager. I’m having the same problem as OP; it never ends.

What’s more: no one (landlord, neighbors) knows who this person is. They’ve even got a business registered at my apartment.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

They’ve even got a business registered at my apartment.

I would add "Attention: Fraud Department" to the writing on the envelope, in this case. It feels like someone may be running some kind of scam, and that might get the letter into the hands of someone who can do something about it.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 4 points 15 hours ago

Have you you tried stealing the person's identity? Seems like that's what the bank is asking for.

[–] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 6 points 21 hours ago

Have you tried contacting the agency that deals with business registrations? Maybe they can flag the business for using a fake address.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 1 day ago

Also, use a sharpie to black out the barcode and city, state, zip or you might end up with it back in your mailbox.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Write "return to sender, wrong address" on the envelopes and drop them back in the mail.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What do you do after doing this for 4+ years for the same person and bank, and you’ve gone as far as showing up in person at the bank’s local branch?

[–] notabot@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Try writting 'Deceased' on it and return it. At the very least it'll give any human who sees it a momentary pause, and maybe they'll take it more seriously.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 4 points 23 hours ago

Damn that’s a great idea! Cheers!

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

Oh wow that is a good tip. I've been getting similar letters for about ten years! Nothing has worked. I'm going to try this next time.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I know a guy who just throws it out.

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[–] Grunt4019@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Not OP, but live in an apartment, we don’t have any place for outgoing mail, so I need to write in on the envelopes and drop them in a random mailbox?

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

That's odd. I have lived in apartment complexes for a large portion of my life. There has always been a single outgoing mail slot with the rows of mailboxes at the apartment complexes. It blends in so it might not look too different than the rest of the bank of mailboxes. This is in the US though so idk how other countries handle it.

[–] bonsai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are in the US, yeah you can drop it in any USPS public dropbox or store iirc

FWIW, this is true of the U.K. too. You could also try speaking to your postie.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I have the same issue. I just keep the misdirected mail for a week or two until it stacks up and then drop it all in the nearest blue USPS mailbox, which is in the center of town. It’s annoying, but not a huge deal.

Also I’ve read you shouldn’t write directly on the envelope, the post office prefers sticky notes so the original envelope isn’t defaced.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That seems haphazard - won't sticky notes be liable to fall off in the mailbag?

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[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not sure if all banks work that way, but I do have a way for you to solve the problem with anybody who is doing that.

In the United States, you can go down to the local post office and fill out a small form. That form lists exactly who lives there. The Post Office puts that form into an optical reader software and all mail that goes through the distribution plant gets read by an optical reader.

So for example let’s say that you lived at

872 3rd St. S.

And I tried to mail a letter to

John Stevens

872 3rd St. S.

If you don’t have John Stevens wrote on that form that you gave to the post office, the optical reader will immediately reject that letter and send it to whoever sent it. You will never see any mail other than what is addressed to you.

Make sure that everybody who lives at that address is wrote on that form. I would also write down anybody who realistically might be getting mail there. So for example, let’s say your mom intends to have a letter sent to your house for her even though she doesn’t live with you you’d wanna make sure her name is on that form.

Now the bank tries to send stuff out for this other person and the bank gets it right back.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wait a second. I get junk mail all the time and when I used to call to opt out, the sender would just change the name to "current resident" and send it anyway. Are you telling me this would solve that?

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sadly. No.

They will deliver "current resident" mail.

[–] Dashi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I tried arguing with them that my name wasn't "Current Resident" it went about as well as expected... lol

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In Canada you can opt out of spam, with the exception of political spam.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 9 points 21 hours ago

I don’t live in a first world country. I live in the US. They are trying to sell the post office to Amazon right now.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

You should definitely switch to a credit union regardless. There are no downsides.

But fault for this kind of issue is shared between the previous resident and the bank. When someone moves, it’s their responsibility to change their address in all the various systems in which they exist and set up mail forwarding, which lasts for a year by default, and is free.

It is your responsibility to forward any misdirected mail you receive. The alternative is throwing it out, which is illegal. Just put a sticky note on the envelope that says something like “wrong address, return to sender” and drop it in any outgoing mailbox.

This is a pretty standard issue though. I lived at my previous apartment for more than 7 years, and I was still getting mail from the previous tenant when I moved out. People are so lazy.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My address doesnt have outgoing mail

[–] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If you don't want to take it to a mailbox, you can put it back in your own mailbox with the "return to sender - no longer at this address" on it. The mail carrier can pick it up when they deliver your mail next. If they seem to miss it, you can try putting a bright post-it note on it to make it stand out.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This only works for certain kinds of mailboxes, not the standard ones many apartments have that only open for the carrier from the top. The carrier has a key that opens the whole box from the top, they put the mail in that way. It’s only incoming mail, there’s no external slot to put outgoing mail. If there’s anything left in the box when they’re delivering, the carrier just assumes the resident hasn’t picked up the previous mail. They never take mail out of an incoming mailbox box.

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[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've tried this at multiple apartments with a 0% success rate. It seems the "return to sender" thing hasn't worked for decades, at least in apartment complexes.

[–] DirigibleProtein@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

“Not at this address - return to sender” doesn’t do much, but “Deceased - return to sender” always works for me. Hopefully someone at the bank/sender flags the account and makes it the account holder’s problem.

(Don’t use sticky notes, they’ll fall off in the mail. Use a black permanent marker and write as big as possible so that they can’t “accidentally” miss your note. Cross out any barcodes or other markings that the post office adds so that it won’t automatically be re-sent to you, the machines will reject it and it will be manually routed back to the sender)

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[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

I just replied to a similar comment, but here it is again since you replied while I was typing :)

Yeah, I have the same issue. I just keep the misdirected mail for a week or two until it stacks up and then drop it all in the nearest blue USPS mailbox, which is in the center of town. It’s annoying, but not a huge deal. Also I’ve read you shouldn’t write directly on the envelope, the post office prefers sticky notes so the original envelope isn’t defaced.

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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thats some bs. they should stop sending the statements to the address and flag it and you should not have had to asked for the flag. heck it should have been flagged just because a stranger called to talk about the account.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Exactly! I think I’m going to leave. Except my credit union had a security issue too. I remember talking to them about moving the pay date for my car loan to match the pay date at my new job a while back. On the managers computer screen they had their software running full screen. From where I sat, I could clearly read full uncensored passwords for accounts. Each account he flipped through just showed the password in the upper right of the screen.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

wtf! As a sys admin I would get upset at people trying to be helpful by telling me their password and its not something you can see on a system usually. I mean you can't call up your own password just reset it. Granted devices you can and keys and such but users and accounts should never be visible except when maybe typing it in a blank box.

[–] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

Exactly. It was just plainly visible in a clearly marked password field.

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