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Summary

China has shrugged off the latest U.S. tariff hike, dismissing the Trump administration's threats as a "meaningless tariff numbers game."

Donald Trump's move to impose tariffs "wiped trillions of dollars off Wall Street" and raised duties on foreign goods, claiming to bring back U.S. manufacturing jobs.

A White House fact sheet announced tariffs on some Chinese imports would rise to 245%.

China’s Commerce Ministry said the move "fully exposes the fact that the United States has become irrational" and vowed to see the trade war "through to the very end."

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a weird timeline that we are rooting for China on this.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

I am rooting for free trade. It's stupid and inefficient for every country to try to manufacture the same goods.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What are americans going to do? Stop buying Chinese crap?

Once amazon warehouses are empty the tariffs are gonna be „paused”. In trumps own words „he has no cards”.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 8 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

There's two ways this works out.

  1. Trump's regime doubles down, never backs out and holds firm.

Basically, you're fucked. Chinese goods stop flowing, medical devices and equipment stop coming, tools and utilities stop being restocked. You're on your own. Welcome to Thunderdome.

  1. Trump's regime keeps this going until the backlash forces them to give it up.

Then we capitulate to China, end up paying more overall but not an impossibly high figure for our items and life goes on... only a little less swimmingly.

My bet is on #1. Stock up on ammo and food, road warrior.

[–] bignate31@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

... and TP. don't forget to stock up on TP

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 17 hours ago

Those who don't will have to take brown-town to the shower nozzle.

[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is completely unrelated but what's with the subscript opening quotation marks? Is that a standard in a specific language? I don't think I've ever seen that.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Iphones do it by default. At least for my polish-english mixed keyboard (which sucks fat cocks)

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

German, for example, uses them

[–] lewdian69@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago
[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No we are just gonna keep buying the cheap crap at the new tariff price because we have no financial literacy in this country and easy access to credit.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 17 hours ago

Not at %245.....

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump has already lost this war. The war he started because he's stupid as fuck. He's going to die before he sees the results of the chaos he reigns.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

Have you seen him recently? Sometimes he neglects the orange deck stain, and his skin is grey and ghoulish. I swear if he didn't have some necromancer keeping him alive, he'd have died 20 years ago.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 203 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Lmao. Could be 2400% and it still wouldn't matter. China already has the pipelines to circumvent all retaliatory measures including Chumps tariffs.

Remember how China exposed all the luxury brands? It's that. Send the products to Vietnam or Brazil or somewhere. Get a domestic label sewn on and bingo.

Xi is playing chess. Chump is playing with his own feces.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago

Once again I miss competence. Just - plain old competence. Knowing a goddamned thing.

Unfuckingbelievable we're here again. The fucker almost wiped out the planet last time with a virus. Gotta give him another at-bat eh? Fucking idiots.

[–] madame_gaymes@programming.dev 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In Trump's defense, its easier to shove a turd through the round hole than a square peg. Especially if it's liquid McD's turds.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 54 points 1 day ago

"That's right, the turd goes in the SQUARE hole."

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Wafflestomping all the way down

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Trump is going to loose this trade war in 6 months or less.

We at about to have Covid level disruptions to our supply chain. Over 80 cargo vessels have canceled sailings. Think about the amount of goods we are not going to get in 3 weeks time. Yeah China will loose money and will be hurt by the trade war but they can find other markets.

The USA is going to have epic supply chain disruptions. We wont have consumer goods or components for manufacturing within 6 weeks. It’s going to be a shit show unless Trump backs down.

https://www.asiafinancial.com/transpacific-cargo-trade-decimated-by-trumps-tariff-war

[–] opus86@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago

It happened in his first term when he pull this tariff crap. All of our projects came to a stand still because we couldn't get gear. The same thing is about to happen again.

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago
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[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 113 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The AI slop machine got Trump’s name right, but whiffed entirely on the author of the book.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech 2 points 18 hours ago

Oh, I thought that was just the ghostwriter. Although I suppose I should be surprised that he'd share credit on anything with anyone.

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 85 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Wait you mean Tow Glhvartz didn't write it? Next you're going to tell me it isn't "Domale's inside look at his lime of fomim sun thant the om curayer"

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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China can live without us. We can't live without them. Go into a Chinese house and remove all the items made in the USA. Now try that in an American house and tell me what's left.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Americans see one empty shelf, there will be weeping and panicking in the streets.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago

There will also be shooting and looting

[–] notsure@fedia.io 72 points 1 day ago (12 children)

...how anyone in the US sees this as positive is beyond my ability for faith and reason...

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That elected a 34 times convicted felon. I'm not sure why anyone is surprised anymore.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 29 points 1 day ago

...they shouldn't be, this has been plotted and planned and WRITTEN down in project 2025...

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[–] match@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago

the trump voters largely do not want positive, they want big negatives for everyone else and are willing to accept negatives for themselves to get it

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[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 9 points 1 day ago

I can only picture Xi Jinping swimming through a pile of rare earth minerals like Scrooge McDuck, while a call from Trump rings, unanswered.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They know he’s full of shit and even if he foolishly proceeds he will destroy the Republican Party’s electoral prospects for decades, lol. The only question is whether they do a military coup to retain power.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

he will destroy the Republican Party’s electoral prospects for decades

Nonsense. Go spend some time on The Federalist, or the New York Post,or r/Conservative, or their pitiful “satire” site The Babylon Bee. They don’t live in reality. The real world is completely irrelevant to them. They could lose everything because of Trump and still think that their woes are the fault of woke Marxist liberals (an oxymoron, I know, but they don’t).

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[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

he will destroy the Republican Party’s electoral prospects for decades

That's what they said about Nixon. Look at how that's turned out.

[–] match@pawb.social 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump is an unserious president

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's just getting extra silly with it.

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[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

I hope Trump holds long enough for the release of the next iphone

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win

~ Sun Tzu, War of the Art of the Deal

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[–] Yoga@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is functionally no difference between a 145% and a 245% tariff.

The cost of going through a black market rather than a clear or grey one is likely already below 145% and the grey one is likely to fill most gaps in the long run anyways.

Grey market tariff skirting might be Canadian or UK companies slapping their logos and "made in X" marker after making a tiny change to the product. The barrier to entry on this is quite low as is the risk. If your profit is capped at 145% you still have a lot of room to make money.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

Generally any tariff over 50% eats into profit margins sufficiently to end trade altogether.

Any escalation in tariffs above that is essentially just a symbolic dick measuring contest. China is being the adult in this situation by not engaging.

[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 day ago
[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So now we see whether Trump gives in or makes up bigger and bigger numbers. "900%! 1,776%! A BILLION PERCENT!"

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you raise the tariffs to a billion percent then the US will get a billion dollars revenue for every $100 TV that comes from China! There will be so many millions of billions!!!!!! Why wasn't anyone smart enough to do this before?!?!?

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