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I have cancer. I'm open about it. This medicaid funding shit could literally kill me.

I am so sick of people suggesting I should "pull a Luigi" or "go out like a hero" because they still have things to lose so they don't want to stand up and lose them. So because I'm gonna die, I should say fuck it and risk it all for a bunch of jerks who wouldn't and haven't done the same for me?

Do you have any idea how disrespectful that is to people who are already suffering? When nobody is standing up to sacrifice themselves to save the weak, broken, sick, and disabled? Why's it our job to save the able bodied? Why can't these people see that even though they think their heart is in the right place, they're still basically telling us "your life sucks anyway and will end soon, you should throw it away for the rest of us who never did anything for you" or more simply "kys."

I'm officially tired of this inconsiderate and frankly ableist bullshit.

Honestly, I wish some mods or admins would make some rules about it since it's ableist.

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[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

There's a lot of losers on Lemmy. They talk tough but they're full of shit. Sorry to hear you have to put up with that

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago

Don't like being told how to fix something? Don't bitch about it in a public forum

They're telling you how to help yourself and other disabled people, not asking you to do something for able-bodied people, but go off on assumptions

[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 day ago

Eh, I've been in your position.

If I still lived there and was still in death trajectory, I'd do it. Not for all the dumdums who should also be doing it (or the idiots who dont deserve it), but to make the world a better place (or at least try) instead of leaving it in the same shit it's in, including for anyone you love, if there's any.

I think that, maybe if you were even closer to death (as in actually terminal), you might (because not everyone has the same mindset) see the point, because people who are going to die anyway have something everyone else doesn't - freedom from consequences. Freedom of choice with societal constraints, because what can any society impose on someone already destined to meet an end soon? They can try, but what is the ultimate deterrent for most humans is non existent for people who are/were in our place.

Sure, you could call it abelist. I call it opportunist. Glass half full kinda thing. Other people, doing what we could do, have the potential to face something much worse than death in a fascist regime. Torture comes to mind.

Someone like me who had kidney failure and did dialysis though? Assuming they want to capture me to torture me, I just gotta take some potassium supplements right after pulling off what I want to and my heart goes weh.

Don't pat yourself in the back too much either - even if me or you did go through with such an act, we wouldn't really be a hero or brave or anything either. We'd be just as much of a coward, in a way, as the "abelists", in that something was only done once we basically had little to lose. If deciding that, it's only because there's already an exit anyway.

You can of course just do nothing like everyone else. Or go do more dangerous things like skydiving or giving a monkey a shower and have some fun. Certain death assured expeditiously gives freedom like no other. You have the right to be selfish with that choice just as those more likely to live longer do everyday.

But you still carry hope because you still have a good chance, that's why it makes you angry. You still have something holding you back. People who still have hope are not the same as the hopeless, nor even the same as people who lost all hope momentarily.

And that is something those in power forget too.

[–] Armand1@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

While I agree with the sentiment, why are you posting this on a shitpost community?

[–] ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

My thought exactly.

[–] TheRealCharlesEames@lemm.ee 61 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 56 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Without naming names, some folks right here on lemmy... I caught OP's first post that prompted this

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah I'd really rather not call people out directly. I don't think they're trying to be rude. Just thoughtless. But yes, mostly here on Lemmy. If people want to, they can dig through my history to see. It's happened a few times since Luigi allegedly did his thing. One of them was very recent, within the last two hours, which prompted this post.

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

There are a lot of people, especially on lemmy, who see everything through the lens of their personal ideology and utterly lack the ability to empathize or understand different views or life situations. You only matter to them insofar as to how it can advance or support their ideology. It's pathological, and their views should be ignored.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

But no one's opinion or thoughts here are with anything,...

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I fully believe someone said this to OP. But it says something about the people OP hangs around with.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nearly every reddit and Twitter comment feed is full of lazy, limp-wrist morons, egging mentally ill people to commit violence for them.

Keep a lookout whenever you are reading comments anywhere for "someone should (...)" or something like that.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

There it is again!

Someone insisted to me that “limp wrist” is a homophobic slur. It reads very much like you’re using it to refer to inactive keyboard warriors, but I am interested in your thoughts.

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 2 points 20 hours ago

I say it to refer to weak impotent losers who complain on the internet all day, and seeing that people use it as a homophobic slur concerns me and I'll stop saying it. Apologies.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 21 hours ago

It definitely had more of a homophobic connotation in the 90's. I'm pretty sure at least one Kids in the Hall sketch with Scott Thompson references the idea, just because I recall him making a hand gesture with him holding his arms up but hands hanging limp from the wrist.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I believe it started like that because it "looks weak" and/or "effete", e.g. wrist Who knows if another meaning has taken over it since like the early 2000s.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a stupid argument, on top of being insensitive. Luigi isn't even a great example-- sure he had a back problem but he also had cash and knowledge on how to even do something. Plus, it's not like some armchair vigilante told him to go out and murder someone. And it's hard to say it's even made a difference.

You just worry about you, and best wishes. Cancers a bitch.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

To be fair, hasn't made much difference cause one, he got caught, and two, nobody else has done it.

I don't blame any particular person for it, of course. Hell, I share the blame myself. I haven't killed any CEOs or politicians either.

But it's not gonna work unless more of us gather up the courage Luigi had and take action.

[–] insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 30 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My more immediate thought is that most people couldn't even get within 100 miles, and this says nothing of training/planning etc. "why doesn't somebody do something" is probably just wish fulfillment by others who feel powerless to do anything about it.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only realistic thing most of us can do is get armed and train, keep a pistol on the nightstand and a rifle by the desk. Even that's not easy if one is a complete noob, takes money and time.

[–] hedgehogging_the_bed@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the exact ableist attitude the OP is talking about. Getting armed and defending yourself isn't a useful option when they don't need to storm your house to kill you and even if they did, you might not be able to physically use the gun.

Self-defense is an ablest concept, get out there and defend one another!

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

This is the exact thing the OP is talking about. Telling people they need to go out and fight, putting their lives on the line when you don't know their situation.

Self defense is not an ablest concept, it's one of the natural response to being threatened, and it's not limited to getting and using weapons. Ever heard of fight or flight? Fighting in a threatening situation is self defense and implying disabled people are helpless and can't fight is insulting.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Fuck, I am so sorry people are saying that to you. I can see myself saying it to a close friend as a gallows humor joke, but not with a stranger.

Hugs to you, my friend. You still being around, you not giving up - that is heroic.

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago

Yeah Lemmy in general is too full of endless jokes about guillotines and Luigi, repeated over and over without a modicum of weight or respect until they become meaningless and slop. Meanwhile not a hint of actual action.

I'm sick of it. It's another redditism that Lemmy can't seem to move past.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Good luck, hope it gets resolved soon and you don’t have any bad affects on your treatment, this sucks

[–] ImminentOrbit@lemmy.world -4 points 1 day ago

Sir, this is a Wendy's.