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[–] LGTM@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

One way I've been trying personally is just gathering as much information as possible and remembering it. I've always been super bad at history and biology because of my resistance to memorization, but I'm slowly keeping up while trying not the get burnt out.

Of course, after I have enough info, that'll inform me of what the next move is, I hope, because if I do anymore now I'll just crumble

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Focusing on and remembering bad stuff selectively is a way to depression...

[–] LGTM@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

True! This way just works for me, and I don't try to take it in all at once

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago
[–] paulpaul@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Check this book with 20 relatively specific actions written by a historian https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Tyranny

Also here are the rules briefly summarized. https://scholars.org/contribution/twenty-lessons-fighting-tyranny-twentieth

I think this one rings particularly strong today.

  1. Take responsibility for the face of the world. The symbols of today enable the reality of tomorrow. Notice the swastikas and other signs of hate. Do not look away, and do not get used to them. Remove them yourself and set an example for others to do so.
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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago

I didn't say this in my other comment, but it's important enough to be its own:

If you think you're going to be targeted, use the buddy system. Don't go anywhere alone, for any reason, ever. One person is an easy target, two and especially three people are a lot harder to deal with.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Fifth column resistance, Sabatoge, and things you cant say on the intetnet.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

this is how the apartheid government was beat in south africa: minimize civilian casualties, maximize infrastructure damage with state targets being prioritized.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (13 children)

Ok but I just want to clarify before we valiantly and romantically take the fight to fascists...

... Did you muster the courage to vote for Harris, return2ozma?

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 17 hours ago

You're going to find a lot of support when the police can't help themselves but be openly brutal, the way the occupying Germans did in Paris France, during the rise and fall of Vichy. The early Résistance started small, tearing down propaganda, slashing tires, cutting phone lines, as they got organized into a formidable fighting force.

It's not popular to advocate for violence, and some revolutions can happen without violence when they're properly organized. Martin Luther King Jr. would sucker the police into attacking non-violent protests (which they were keen to do) to appeal to the sympathy of the public and to challenge them in court. BLM is using the same means, with more emphasis on using those ubiquitous phone cameras everyone has to record it as it goes down, for the internet to view in horror.

But the Mahsa Amini protests in Iran reminded me of the adage Violence is unthinkable until the hour it is inevitable. After the death of Amini by the morality police for a minor hijab violation, Iranians protested by forgoing hijab and tipping the headcovers of VIPs (imans and government officials.) They responded with brutal reprisals from police and loyalists, which is when the protesters started flinging Molotov Cocktails at government buildings. Hangings of protestors resulted in live fire combat in the streets which resulted in Islamist loyalists poison-gas bombing girls' schools, which is a bad look worldwide.

But don't worry, when we see what law enforcement intends to do in the states, especially the anti-immigration and round up teams, the call to arms will be crystal clear.

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

The only peaceful method i can think of would be for enough people to collectively get together and agree to completely stop buying stuff, other than food and absolute necessities. No luxuries, none. But you'd need enough people and to do it long enough to completely destroy the economy. It would be very boring for a long time.

Not gonna happen.

More realistically, we need more Luigis.

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

You have to be willing to Luigi these people. We need a thousand more Luigi.

Any other answer is wrong.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 259 points 1 day ago (30 children)
[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 120 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Violence really, really fucking sucks.

It may be necessary, but if there's any other option you should look to that first. If it legitimately comes to violence a lot of innocent people are going to suffer in a big way.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 131 points 1 day ago (14 children)

There were other options. I think those other options failed at this point in time.

[–] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 8 points 21 hours ago

His spokesperson in Italy said that he meant to say "I give my heart to you" with that gesture. I mean, dude, just own it up. It's not like there would have been any repercussion.

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"A Riot is the language of the unheard"

-Martin Luther King Jr.

"When peaceful revolution becomes impossible, violent revolution becomes inevitable"

-John F. Kennedy

As per lemmy.world rules, I'm obligated to say that I do not condone violence, just quoting some people, interpret it however you wish to. 😉

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 11 points 21 hours ago

Find out what fascism would look like at the individual level, and then make yourself immune to that behavior yourself, ensuring that you yourself are not fertile ground for it to grow in.

That’s the emphasis of the course Maps of Meaning. One of the stated intentions of the course is (paraphrased) “To make my students realize that they are capable of being an Auschwitz camp guard, which is not a fun thing to realize, and then to build the kind of life and character that would prevent them from taking part”.

So really, based on my own understanding of how fascism arose in Germany, the best thing is to be totally dedicated to telling the truth. Have values to go higher than your own safety and comfort, and be dedicated enough so that when the opportunity comes to stay comfortable by supporting the fascists, you have the backbone to oppose them.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

I won't say just vote, but you should do that, too, at every level!

Depending on how much time and money you have:

  • Join a union (and give time and money to organising the union)
  • Join an antifascist political party (and give time and money to organising the party)
  • Lobby your representatives to demand they oppose fascism
  • Join protests against fascism
  • Join civil society groups that are antifascist (either directly or because they're pro human rights or anti-racist, or what-have-you) (and give time and money etc.)
  • Boycott businesses that are owned by or enable fascists
  • Join co-operatives (and give time and money etc.)
  • Join community groups (these don't even have to be political)
  • Support local, independent media and good freelance journalists
  • Spread the word about all of the above

I've ordered these roughly by how effective I think they're likely to be (this is of course just one guy's opinion); you should pick the one(s) that are most attractive to you and best fit your current situation.

Fair warning, none of the above will instantly fix the problem and I grant that some of them probably seem pretty weak sauce in the face of fascism, but the more people do them, the weaker the fascists will get.

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Couple of things:

  • Information : Keep creating and sharing reliable information. Not just opinions, information. We are still the majority, the US fascists is not world, we need to flood all the relevant platforms with our content.
  • Education: The reason these monsters have any credibility is because some people are too mentally weak to defend themself from misinformation. We need to educate around in any way possible. Everything counts, keep trying.
  • Humor is a powerful weapon. These people have giant ego and 0 humor. Let's keep ridicule them and have fun at their expense. They need to understand we have some things they can never touch, even with all the money in the world, solidarity, humour and camaraderie.
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[–] Kissaki@feddit.org 5 points 19 hours ago

Experts in the field may be more knowledgeable, but there seem to be multiple attack vectors to me:

  • Fight and advocate to reduce social injustice; people who feel powerless or left out vote right [even against their own interest]
  • Support quality education that critically explores fascism and history, that improves media literacy, and logical fallacies etc
  • Support social programs that help people in the scene get out
  • Support social programs that prevent people from drifting into that scene
  • Be a voice in criticism and watchdogging media, orgs, and [public] people
[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago

Get organized with a socialist, revolutionary, anti-war, and/or anti-fascist organization near you that is visibly putting in the work and regularly mobilizing. Recruit more people to your cause and form coalitions with organizations that align with your values. I can personally endorse the PSL but certainly do the research for yourself to find a group that speaks to you personally & whose work you find to be the most fulfilling.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure that the answer is against the Terms Of Service of this instance.

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