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[โ€“] ICastFist@programming.dev 15 points 6 days ago

You know how cheaters ruin online games? How their fun relies on fucking everyone, abusing the system and winning without respecting the rules? The same applies to people like her, trump, musk, etc. They're "communication cheaters", they don't respect the rules, they abuse the system, yet platforms want us to believe that they deserve to be treated like common users.

"Waah waah mah ๐ŸงŠ ๐Ÿ‘ waah waah censorship" - Fuck you. If free speech was a game, these people would be banned.

[โ€“] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

AI is going to make misinformation a 100 times worse. There really needs to be laws with bot usage on social media and data privacy laws.

[โ€“] skip0110@lemm.ee 78 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The original post has 58k views, the correct information has 2k. That is the level of efficiency that site has in disseminating correct information.

[โ€“] LordKitsuna@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The timestamps imply the correct information is less than an hour old in that screenshot

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[โ€“] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

a lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes

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[โ€“] digdilem@lemmy.ml 73 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

America does not care about truth. Worse, it actively discourages truth.

Lying is accepted. Making up facts that suit your narrative and shouting down anyone who disagrees gets you rewarded with the highest position of state.

We, the rest of the world, are just watching you guys in horror.

[โ€“] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (5 children)

At Least half of us are basically watching in horror from inside.

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[โ€“] IDrawPoorly@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

America does not care about truth

Show me a country with social media and I'll show you people who value making their political opponents 'look like fools' by lying.

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[โ€“] Limonene@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It's not like there's a state border check for vehicle emissions. You can visit California in a non-California car without an emissions check. Joy's claim doesn't make sense even before fact checking.

[โ€“] jordanlund@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is a border check entering CA but they only ask about fruits and vegetables.

[โ€“] Limonene@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Wow it's true: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Border_Protection_Stations

I don't think any other US state has checkpoints. This is a surprise to me.

[โ€“] Anticorp@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

California grows like 40% of the vegetables for the entire country. So they're very protective of their agriculture.

[โ€“] Carvex@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Florida has a checkpoint for plants and possible invasive species, definitely not for firetrucks helping people though.

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[โ€“] plz1@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's meant to sow discord, not be fact checked or taken seriously by critically-minded people. It's meant to rile up the MAGA's.

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[โ€“] Furbag@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

This is a great example of the importance of teaching people critical thinking skills.

If you stop to analyze what was written in this sensationalized post rather than acting on your emotions, the first question that should come into mind is "who stopped them?". There are no checkpoints between Oregon and California where cars are turned away from crossing state lines due to emissions. In fact, that would probably violate federal free travel laws which would supercede any stupid law like that.

Next, consider the source. Is this person trustworthy? Did they provide ample citations to reputable journalistic outlets that verified the factuality of the claims? If not, they may be trying to deceive you with falsehoods or have an ulterior motive for misrepresenting the facts. At best they are repeating claims that they've heard from others and anything they report on should be taken with a grain of salt.

This post doesn't hold up to the slightest amount of scrutiny, but people get fooled every day by crap like this. My advice is that if you hear something that sounds outrageous or too good to be true, stop and think carefully about it for a few minutes, or maybe just wait for another source to report it. Saves you a lot of stress and protects you from endlessly doomscrolling.

[โ€“] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The firetrucks were allowed through but Haitian immigrants ate them!

You expect too much from these people, and an increasing share of them aren't genuine people at all.

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[โ€“] limelight79@lemm.ee 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

A friend of mine posted something on Facebook (reposted from a local list in Arizona) claiming that two people were knocking on doors and beating up people, and one woman was in the hospital as a result. Pictures of the perpetrators and everything.

Something felt off, so I did a quick search on their names. And I found an article from some city in Texas where the same rumor had been circulating about that area. The article clarified that the two people had committed some crimes several years ago and were caught, tried, and convicted already.

So someone took one of these, changed the name of the area, and posted it to the local list. Why do people do this? A form of stochastic terrorism maybe?

Edit - I can't find the post (I think my friend deleted it), but I did still have a tab open with the article about it.

[โ€“] WamGams@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have noticed this as well. Back during the early facebook years, a "news" outlet would just generate content by posting stories like "Greenville ranked as the city with highest crime rate" every week or so.

Everybody on my facebook feed would go crazy saying things like "I always knew that town was dangerous, but to hear it outranks New York? TERRIFYING!"

Only issue is that this outlet would have 50 different URLs for the article, all giving a city in a different state (always an immigrant heavy suburb) and those articles would be appear around facebook and nobody would know the wiser.

It costs almost nothing for them to rewrite the world and your perspective about it. The granularity they are now capable of should give us pause.

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[โ€“] valtia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

โ€œwho stopped them?โ€. There are no checkpoints between Oregon and California

.. actually, there are checkpoints along every major roadway into California that do check incoming vehicles, mostly to find and prevent invasive species from entering the state and affecting the agricultural industry, and more broadly to protect the environmental systems in California. There have, in fact, been legal challenges against these checkpoints for violating travel laws, but the checkpoints have remained. They've also been used to seize non-agricultural items like weed, weapons smuggling, etc. so emissions standards checking isn't completely out of the realm.

Obviously, she's lying and she doesn't know any of this either anyway. But there are checkpoints to enter California.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Border_Protection_Stations

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[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This is not "false" this is just "pants on fire lying"

This person should not have the freedom to speak publicly anymore

Screw freedom of expression as we currently have it. Freedom of expression should become a right with responsibility. if you can't be responsible, you can't have the right. You either speak the truth or don't get to speak to groups, period

I'm SO done with literally everyone and everything lying with zero repercussions. Companies lie, all fine. Politicians lie like there is no tomorrow and that's fiiiiine, even Obama lied like 25% and that's fiiiiine, trump literally lies 99% of the time and it's all fine! Nothing happens, so we just lie more and more and you can't trust anything or anyone anymore

Freedom of expression on the internet was a big mistake

[โ€“] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It's not freedom of expression that's the issue here; it's the devaluation of responsible public influence such as (but not limited to) quality journalism. Lots of news agencies that used to be reputable are either going out of business or getting bought out by shady people. Hicks (I should know) have always been able to stand at the edge of their property yelling bullshit. The problem is people started listening and putting them up in the town square to yell bullshit (sometimes they even get paid!).

[โ€“] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Yes and no

I fully agree we need to have independent journalists. People won't pay for news anymore so governments should fund independent journalists through some sort of independent foundation. International foundation, preferably.

But beyond that, it matters little if we still have Alex Jones who somehow has actual listeners, or Fox news which is just a 24/7 bullshit pump with a large userbase.

We need to stop people, organizations, and companies from being able to lie to large groups. You lie? The lie gets immediately marked as being a lie. Not "this is not entirely true", no, "this is a lie". Repeat offenders should be fined depending on their worth. You are worth a billion dollars? Get a 100 million dollar fine. Still don't listen? Jail time, doesn't matter who you are.

Its either that or I see this world dead within the decade. With AI pictures and videos getting better every day, with AI becoming better at posting, how long do you think we have until we have a dead Internet with only AI posting lies and all extremist humans ready to commit mass murder because the AI bots have been telling them that the Jewish space lasers will make your frog children gay or something?

The Internet gave a bullhorn to idiots and cheaters and though I was one of the earlier users, loving it's thinking it would rescue the world, now I'm of the opinion that it will doom us all

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[โ€“] mke@programming.dev 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This stupid bitch has since deleted the tweet and gotten back to it like it's another Tuesday. OSFM had to put out a statement correcting it. I hate people.

[โ€“] wildcardology@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

she deleted the original tweet, then reposted it again.

[โ€“] mke@programming.dev 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My bad, you're right. I tried to check first, but I didn't have the patience to scroll past her claiming America Is So Back because "Starbucks kicked homeless people out of bathrooms," so I ended up not seeing the reposted tweet.

She lies, runs away from OSFM, gets community noted, and still, in the replies:

Um, this is 100% TRUE and WOKE Oregon seems to be covering for WOKE California. Leftists stick together.

There are many people whose work and ideas I deeply respect, but even in my weakest moments, I couldn't possibly idolize them like this useless waste of oxygen does gargling on Trump's ballsack every day.

Because I'm a horrible person, I can foresee that there's zero chance I'll die before doing something monumentally stupid. My greatest shame is realizing it probably won't be as effective as what Luigi did.

[โ€“] frezik@midwest.social 10 points 1 week ago

I wish leftists stuck together as much as the right thinks we do.

[โ€“] vga@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It's an tragic fact that correcting a lie is hugely more costly than making and spreading the lie.

[โ€“] vga@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago

But not quite as tragic as me using the wrong article in a sentence this profound.

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[โ€“] HawlSera@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Why the fuck you lying? Stop fucking lying. Why you always lying?

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[โ€“] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Right wingers haven't cared about the truth for decades. It's just now they don't care whether we know it or not. Just think back to Trump's first term and "alternate truths" and all that. They don't care anymore. They believe what they want to believe, and no amount of facts or reasoning is going to change it.

But yes, everyone lies. Some people just more than others and some will lie to your face with a smirk on their face knowing damn well you know they're lying.

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Why would known diarrhea fetishist Mila Joy say blatant lies on the internet?

[โ€“] Blackmist@feddit.uk 15 points 1 week ago

Bot? How do we know that isn't just another of Elon's alts?

I suppose somebody could check if she's called him a good father recently...

[โ€“] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I like the idea that someone mid fighting the fires, put down thier hose to reposnd to the tweet

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[โ€“] Naich@lemmings.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Too late. It's already become true, and another example of wokeness for your racist uncle to bang on about.

[โ€“] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is exactly why so many things just feel hopeless to me. The worst people have caught on to, and the parrots don't even realize, that you can just say literally anything and the occupants of your echo chamber will believe it immediately and then refuse to believe whatever reality actually is if it is presented to them by literally any other "outsider."

Hell even someone of the "in-group" who is not substantial enough will be outed as an "other" if they dare go against the initial message.

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[โ€“] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 week ago (8 children)

how do we even come back from this

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[โ€“] superkret@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago

2100 retweets on the lie.
33 on the truth.

[โ€“] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (6 children)

This is something AI would be good for

Have it search for specific misinformation and reply with a canned response with sources using an official account.

[โ€“] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Or someone can just train an AI to spit out more misinformation.

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