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[–] crime@hexbear.net 86 points 2 days ago (10 children)

tbf the nyc subway is extremely convoluted and unintuitive to use compared to more civilized metros, lots of arcane rules like "only the first 3 cars can fit in this station so if you want to get off there you better remember where in the train you are" or "trains with prime numbers only stop at every other station during rush hour" which are never posted anywhere. It's like the least beginner-friendly metro of any on earth, even ones where the beginner doesn't speak the local language.

that said it's still not that hard, you buy a ticket, you try to get on the right train, and worst-case you end up 20 blocks away from your destination and try again

[–] ped_xing@hexbear.net 40 points 2 days ago (5 children)
[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

Is this an LSAT question?

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[–] regul@hexbear.net 47 points 2 days ago (1 children)

transit apps have trivialized all of this

you don't even need a Metrocard anymore!

[–] crime@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Any system designed for the general population that's so complicated you need an app navigate it is a bad system.

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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 28 points 2 days ago (4 children)

“only the first 3 cars can fit in this station so if you want to get off there you better remember where in the train you are”

Not once in the 40 years I lived in NYC has this happened to me.

[–] crime@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

maybe it was construction-related, if the intercom worked I might've been able to hear what the conductor was trying to say about it instead of a garbled static version of the teacher's voice in charlie brown

[–] thethirdgracchi@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is much more common on the LIRR or NJ Transit than the subway. Certain stations only allow the first 10 cars, last four cars, etc

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[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

every western transit designer should be required by law to visit one or more major east asia cities to see how they do it. I've been a few places in taiwan, RoK, japan and even as a non-local language speaker the transit was super easy to use. lots of colour coding on paths to guide you around and signage was really good too. this was 10+ years ago now but these cities definitely set the bar to me. I'm curious what modern transit looks like in mainland china, I've never been.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago

Nordic countries have good transit too, but admittedly nowhere near the same throughput as a metro in China

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 80 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So she's a travel columnist and she doesn't do the thing the people do where she travels?

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate the gatekeeping and elitist thing of "You don't truly like X if you only do popular thing", but she's really tempting me to do that with travel.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Honestly I don't think cruises and disneyland qualify you to be "well traveled" in any sense of the word other than "has technically been to many places" and even that's only from the cruises.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

traveling to different disney resorts is like traveling to a bunch of airports

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

i've been to mcdonalds in 120 countries

[–] glans@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago

Its like counting places in which you had a 1 hour stopover.

I suggest that you haven't been somewhere until you've gone grocery shopping there.

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 47 points 2 days ago

Sounds about american

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

She seems very attached to normal human being life.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't @ me about footprint but this is on the way to having the personal CO2-Footprint of the actual cruise ship by going so often all the breakdowns per passenger just end up at 100% again

[–] Speaker@hexbear.net 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

There are cruise ships that people live on. Like, they don't book them out, you buy a spot on the ship and they just go around the world and stop places. There are multiple year-long cruises, dozens of month-long ones. Most of the ships have been in service since the 70s, sold, resold, refitted. It's truly a cursed industry.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 1 points 15 hours ago

[extremely lib voice]: We need to allow Florida retirement homes to fly flags of convenience

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The NYC subway has a bit of a learning curve, but it really isn't that bad. People are pretty understanding about non-locals being confused and will answer questions readily, and pretty much the worst case scenario is that you accidentally catch an express train, miss the stop you were shooting for, and have to go across to the other platform to go a few stops back in the other direction. Being unwilling to even try is just baby brained, especially for a "travel journalist."

Oh she's a "travel journalist" who almost exclusively does cruises and Disney resorts. That makes more sense.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For some reason I assumed Disney had trams or something at the park. I'm not looking it up

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I imagine it's a single track with only one set of stops. The NYC subway requires you to plan your route out and make the occasional transfer.

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[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ilive in a part of Florida where public transit isn't really a thing, so learning how to ride

IN FLORIDA ONLY UNTOUCHABLES USE PUBLIC TRANSIT AND LEARNING HOW TO RIDE LIKE A POOR IS HARD

[–] blame@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

how do you travel 1/3rd of the year and not know how public transit works

[–] Posadas@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exclusively going to Disney and going on cruises

[–] blame@hexbear.net 11 points 2 days ago

I think if we wanted to draw a line between vacation and travel this would be it

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Medieval peasant brain on full display.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This honestly feels more like medieval lord brain, which I also think is a big part of car brain

Share a space with the commoners? By god, what if I catch the poor off of them?

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[–] TheDeed@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I am from a place where there's no train/subway or anything, but I was broke growing up so I did ride the city bus which is easy to use.

However, the first time I rode the subway in Boston was a terrifying, overwhelming and disorienting experience. Didn't help that it was rush hour and also everyone on the east coast just automatically fucking hates strangers or something so I had some trouble getting help to work the ticketing machine, one MBTA worker literally laughed at me. Once I was on the train there was nothing to hold on to because of was packed like sardines and I thought I was gonna fly into the people next to me.

Anyway my Midwestern ass wanted to avoid it after that. I buried that feeling and figured everything out for my next ride though (I discovered the MBTA app), but I think a lot of people take mass public transit for granted if you were blessed enough to have it all your life.

I at least tried unlike this lady though lmao

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's understandable to be confused by the strange commercialized transit scheme in New York. Probably not as understandable to be an adult and not know how to read a map but that's the education system's failure, not a moral failure.

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[–] blunder@hexbear.net 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What in the fuck publication is uploading this Instagram post + diary entry ass article?

[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago

I’ll bet in the million times she’s gone to Disney she hasn’t ridden the Fkn monorail either.

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You spend over 25% of the year traveling... And you've never gone somewhere with lots of public transit? Ok not NYC which is one of few transit systems in the US that's worth anything... But what never big cities in... Europe? Asia? Atleast to pass through em for a few days if most of your travel is rural (which I doubt).

Just going to Tokyo and only taking the taxi.

Or what she just goes to LA like 20 times a year?

[–] Robert_Kennedy_Jr@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Or what she just goes to LA like 20 times a year?

No she mostly just goes to Disneyland in Florida.

[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 37 points 2 days ago

Goes to Disneyland 35 days a year, complains about having to take public transit. Checks out

[–] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Madness. I mean I get it on one tiny level... There are things I like doing more often than the average amount... But Disney... Really. You wanna be a child that bad?

Also ya totally makes you a big time travel head to go to the same theme park for the same managed experience every time.

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[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I remember when I first left Florida I had no idea how to use transit either. I had to look it up and spent hours trying to figure it out. after doing so however, I know for sure it's a genuine goal of mine to see how long I can make it without owning a car even if I end up back in Florida just out of spite

[–] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Motorcyclists have a point when they call carbrains cagers. It should be a more widely adopted term.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also very popular with the bicycle crowd, just to note

[–] SwitchyandWitchy@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I should've known that I'm part of that crowd lol

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 32 points 2 days ago
[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago

Isn't there just an app

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 22 points 2 days ago

The subway was sooo much nicer than the buses in Wisconsin.

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