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This kind of rhetoric (most of it; Hamas is a resistance organization and much of what they've been accused of has been proven false and Israel is refusing to allow any further independent investigations) is exactly what we've all been saying, and it's Marjorie Taylor Greene saying it?

Have I woken up in an alternate universe? Is the Mandela effect happening?

Literally that first part most especially: trying to explain to people by asking themselves to try putting themselves in the shoes of people from Gaza; it's a sentiment I barely see from pro-Palestinian democrats, but now MTG is saying it? Asking people to think about what it's like if they were going through this?

Also I want to mention, cause it bears mentioning, MTG actually spoke out AGAINST refusing Gazan children to go to America to receive aid.

Seriously, have I woken up in an alternate universe?

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[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the answer.

I could name like 12 women I’ve met personally who are nearly identical to MTG in both ideology and appearance. All of them, if you showed them pictures of children being starved to death and told them “Israel is doing this with American weapons” would say “That’s fucked up someone should stop them”

Marjorie Taylor Greene can best be described as “some white lady” and literally nothing deeper than that. But that places her far to the left of the Democratic Party because the average “some white lady” thinks that killing children is wrong

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’m not sure if I’d characterize her as far to the left of the Democratic Party. This is still the woman who describes herself as a Christian nationalist, doesn’t believe in evolution, has used three percenters as security at campaign events, and believes Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are part of a Muslim invasion of the us.

[–] ClimateStalin@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry, when I said “far to the left of the Democratic Party” I did mean on this issue specifically.

“Killing children is wrong” is far to the left of the Democratic Party’s position on Israel.

[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah except for me a number of democrats have already referred to the Gaza situation as a genocide before MTG. And even among dems who haven’t described it this way, more and more are beginning to break ranks, vote against arms sales, start to criticize US policy on Israel, at least with regards to the current genocide. I do agree she has outflanked the core of the Democratic Party which remains staunchly pro-Israel, but the core of the Republican Party also remains staunchly pro-israel. There are congresspeople on both sides of the aisle breaking rank, MTG is not really notable in this regard.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] rootsbreadandmakka@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even this obscures her role. The above is not a radical statement. As some have pointed out it’s not particularly incompatible with a moderate Zionist position or some two-state solution lib. Further, who knows how she came to her position. As many have pointed out there are plenty of Nazis who oppose Israel and we’re not going to start praising them as leftists.

Also let’s not forget the context of this statement. Support for Israel is slipping, among the public and on both sides of the aisle in congress. MTG, as she hints at in the statement, was after 10/7 supportive of Israel. She censured Tlaib and has stood in extreme opposition to pro-Palestine protests, calling for failing students who are protesting, defunding universities that allow protests to happen and echoing Stephen Miller’s call to deport “Hamas supporters” aka pro-Palestine protesters. But the cracks are now beginning to show across the political spectrum. This statement is weird and surprising coming from her, but it’s a position come to through complete incoherency and contradictory ideas and no reasoning any of us would identify as “left-wing,” it’s not even particularly radical. Meanwhile we know who MTG is. She serves and has only ever served the purposes of the far right. This statement is notable only in offering proof that support for Israel is declining even among its staunchest defenders.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

someone like that outflanking the democrats on the easiest slam-dunk issue ever of "murdering children is bad, actually" just makes democrats look worse.

Yeah I wrote pretty much this same response to someone else but I do agree with you she’s outflanking the core of the Democratic Party which remains staunchly pro-Israel, but a number of democrats have already broken ranks, described the Gaza situation as a genocide, voted against arms sales, etc. MTG’s position is not particularly notable except for the fact that it’s coming from a republican since the core of the Republican Party also remains staunchly pro-Israel. She’s being reported as the “first Republican in Congress to describe Israel’s actions in Gaza as a genocide” since a number of democrats have already done this before her. There are congresspeople in both parties breaking ranks as support for Israel declines, I don’t think MTG’s statement is particularly notable except for the fact that it’s coming from her.

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