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Although I sympathize with many attempts on this site to figure out what these bloodsuckers think, I think most of the time it’s a futile endeavor. MTG is not Henry Kissinger with a well thought out ideology and extremely deliberate goals. She is like most Americans - completely incoherent on the subject of politics.
This is a woman from suburban Atlanta, 4 or so years out of college she is given her father’s contracting company. Then at one point she becomes a CrossFit coach. She not active politically until 2016 when she is at that point like 42 years old. She spends a measly 3 years involved with various far right John Birch style conspiracy initiatives, where she holds such esteemed titles as “Facebook group moderator” and then decides to run for congress.
She’s a great tool of the bourgeoisie but she is hardly the one pulling the levers of power. She has a bunch of extreme far right ideas rattling around in her brain, a whole lot of antisemitism, the typical American veneration of the “entrepreneur,” but none of these things add up to any coherent worldview. She’s merely reacting to the last thing she saw based on whatever contradictory ideas she’s picked up throughout her life that have stuck in her brain like a bee wading through pollen. I’m sure as horrible and racist and antisemitic as she is she still doesn’t view herself as a “bad person.” Maybe some video slipped through the algorithm and she was forced to see what the war in Gaza actually looks like. Sure she wants to glass the place, but she’s still a suburban mom who wants to “save the children.” Or whatever who knows why she came to this decision. But show her some more Israeli propaganda or make up another “Hamas is boiling children alive in cauldrons like medieval witches” lie and then she’ll react to that. I wouldn’t put much stock in this whole thing. All it’s proof of is that Israel is losing support even among the dogs of empire as this genocide goes on, and the great Trump mandate is beginning to falter.
This is the answer.
I could name like 12 women I’ve met personally who are nearly identical to MTG in both ideology and appearance. All of them, if you showed them pictures of children being starved to death and told them “Israel is doing this with American weapons” would say “That’s fucked up someone should stop them”
Marjorie Taylor Greene can best be described as “some white lady” and literally nothing deeper than that. But that places her far to the left of the Democratic Party because the average “some white lady” thinks that killing children is wrong
I’m not sure if I’d characterize her as far to the left of the Democratic Party. This is still the woman who describes herself as a Christian nationalist, doesn’t believe in evolution, has used three percenters as security at campaign events, and believes Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are part of a Muslim invasion of the us.
Sorry, when I said “far to the left of the Democratic Party” I did mean on this issue specifically.
“Killing children is wrong” is far to the left of the Democratic Party’s position on Israel.
Yeah except for me a number of democrats have already referred to the Gaza situation as a genocide before MTG. And even among dems who haven’t described it this way, more and more are beginning to break ranks, vote against arms sales, start to criticize US policy on Israel, at least with regards to the current genocide. I do agree she has outflanked the core of the Democratic Party which remains staunchly pro-Israel, but the core of the Republican Party also remains staunchly pro-israel. There are congresspeople on both sides of the aisle breaking rank, MTG is not really notable in this regard.
one foot on either side
Even this obscures her role. The above is not a radical statement. As some have pointed out it’s not particularly incompatible with a moderate Zionist position or some two-state solution lib. Further, who knows how she came to her position. As many have pointed out there are plenty of Nazis who oppose Israel and we’re not going to start praising them as leftists.
Also let’s not forget the context of this statement. Support for Israel is slipping, among the public and on both sides of the aisle in congress. MTG, as she hints at in the statement, was after 10/7 supportive of Israel. She censured Tlaib and has stood in extreme opposition to pro-Palestine protests, calling for failing students who are protesting, defunding universities that allow protests to happen and echoing Stephen Miller’s call to deport “Hamas supporters” aka pro-Palestine protesters. But the cracks are now beginning to show across the political spectrum. This statement is weird and surprising coming from her, but it’s a position come to through complete incoherency and contradictory ideas and no reasoning any of us would identify as “left-wing,” it’s not even particularly radical. Meanwhile we know who MTG is. She serves and has only ever served the purposes of the far right. This statement is notable only in offering proof that support for Israel is declining even among its staunchest defenders.
someone like that outflanking the democrats on the easiest slam-dunk issue ever of "murdering children is bad, actually" just makes democrats look worse.
Yeah I wrote pretty much this same response to someone else but I do agree with you she’s outflanking the core of the Democratic Party which remains staunchly pro-Israel, but a number of democrats have already broken ranks, described the Gaza situation as a genocide, voted against arms sales, etc. MTG’s position is not particularly notable except for the fact that it’s coming from a republican since the core of the Republican Party also remains staunchly pro-Israel. She’s being reported as the “first Republican in Congress to describe Israel’s actions in Gaza as a genocide” since a number of democrats have already done this before her. There are congresspeople in both parties breaking ranks as support for Israel declines, I don’t think MTG’s statement is particularly notable except for the fact that it’s coming from her.
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Nah, she's a consistent antisemite. She used to prattle on about Jewish space lasers. So she's an antisemite who hasn't gotten the memo that you're supposed to hate the Jews while also loving Israel
yeah, for most American antisemites that aren't simple end times cultists, the appeal of Israel is that Israel believes in the centrality of the Race War, and it provides a narrative to replace the traditional Elders of Zion theory for why the antisemite feels so powerless. Israel tells the world "Jews are cruel, dishonest child-killers who will stop at nothing to destroy our enemies. this is the essential feature of our character, and we're proud of it." It says "the only virtue is strength and the only sin is weakness. Love your race above all else and you will triumph." At this point there's nothing for your cornfed skinhead to disagree with.
The idea that Jews are evil because they enact suffering on nonwhite people is just incoherent to most Nazis, and I really do think MTG arriving at it is anomalous.
Well I’m not gonna argue that she’s not an antisemite lol, but idk it’s hard for me to see this as the only reason. She just hasn’t been consistent on Israel, and it’s not like she’s been quiet on the subject either. She’s referred to herself as “a Christian who supports Israel,” publicly stated she stands with and supports Israel and has been extremely hostile towards pro-Palestine protests and voices. She’s also voted to fund Israel’s defense in the past, though she makes headlines because she also opposes it sometimes.