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Diamond prices are down 60% since a 2011 high, and they are still falling. It's not all down to lab-grown diamonds, demand is down too, especially in China.

No one can lab-grow gold yet, so its rarity and scarcity protect its value, but that will end too. It's just a question of when. China launched an asteroid touch-down mission this week, which will make it the 4th country/region to do so, after Europe, the US & Japan.

How soon will it be feasible to mine asteroids? Who knows, but a breakthrough in space propulsion might mean the prospect happens quickly when it does. It's possible gold has twenty years or less of being high value left.

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[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The breaktrough for asteroid mining isn't propulsion but how to mine and process ore in a vacuum.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Given how big asteroids can be, that must be a massive microwave! Though the spinning plate probably won't work due to gravity...

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago

Well, i didn't find it, but there was some news a few years ago, about progress to practical use of Maser as tunnel boring/melting device.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Actually it's surviving the radiation outside the Van Allen belts.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] tankfox@midwest.social 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Available free to anyone who can hack the control codes!

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Has anyone hacked the mining robots already in use on earth? Has anyone hacked any of NASA's probes?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hmm. What's hard about that?

Drill and blast seems like it should work as normal, or just a bucket if it's the rubble heap kind. Getting noble metals like gold out of a solution is pretty easy with electrowinning.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Drill and blast seems like it should work as normal,

Zero G?

[–] tankfox@midwest.social 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What about those things require any g?

Asteroid miners are going to have more in common with spiders than anything else; find a tasty roid, wrap it up in cling wrap and set off bombs inside of it until it's a bag of gravel, then get the whole mess spinning and just let go of the stuff you don't want to keep. Hell when you're done you can re-harvest the angular momentum to propel you over to the next roid and start the process over again.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So easy, why hasn't anyone done it already????

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I mean, most space travel ideas haven't been done, even ones that are many decades old. Shit's expensive and risky, both as an investment and an activity.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

For the same reason most other things involving space haven't been done yet. We as a species suck at prioritising stuff and allocating resources

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Creating a debris field in orbit? You want this thing fully enclosed before you start messing with it in ways that cause it to break up.

I suppose in a very low orbit you could consider messy options if it will all burn up in a few months. But doesn't seem ideal.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Why would that be a problem? The drilling platform would have to be tethered to the rock, but that's doable and I'm pretty sure they drill all the time on the ISS. Actually, didn't we drill into a comet or asteroid for samples sometime recently? The explosives would require no modification at all.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The drilling platform would have to be tethered to the rock

That would be the start of a solution.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Barbed harpoons were the approach with the comet. Putting a band around the whole thing could also work for a small body. If you're going for gold, the asteroid is also going to be paramagnetic if I'm not mistaken, so you can just electromagnet on.

It's slightly more problematic than on Earth, but I'm basically going to need some citations if I'm ever going to believe it's sticking to the chosen landing site that's the hardest part. A lot of proposals sidestep on-site processing, even, and rely on delivering a whole small body to Earth.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe not to Earth (unless you wanna crash economies), but a LaGrange point would be suitable – as well as a place for something spinning so the hairless monkeys could have a semblance of gravity.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

If you have human miners, anyway.