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The disruption of labor by humanoid robots (www.rethinkx.com)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by Philosofuel to c/futurology

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Analysis of why and how humanoid robots will displace human physical labour.

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[–] Philosofuel 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't think they are cowards, but in this piece indeed these implications don't come forward. In other articles and books they do talk about what the conditions should be for using the many transitions they talk about for good, or if those conditions aren't met, how they will not benefit most people. I think their work does capsulate well how these kind of transition will totally change current markets and partially economic systems, but how this exactly will play out is anybody's guess.

[–] Lugh 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In fairness the rethinkx people are doing a better job than most in drawing attention to this issue.

However, I still think the term cowardice is merited, and not just for them.

We constantly hear Silicon Valley types talk about disruption like this, but they’re always afraid to follow through with logical conclusions. I think it's because they know the only two choices are some sort of socialism, or chaos.

It makes them frauds as well as cowards. On the one hand taking billions from private investors for AI; with the other hand creating a world where the stock market probably won’t exist, or will survive only as a shrunken relic.

[–] Philosofuel 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Alright I get your point.

Probably it will be chaos regardless, and coming out of that turmoil a form of socialism would be great. I don't think any of these fundamental transitions happen smoothly.

Another point just struck me about this piece. It talks about how these robots probably will be used for military purposes as well. That also means that every company with (let's say) a thousand or more bots will have asignificantl armed force on call. What will that mean for power dynamics within countries?

[–] Lugh 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

how these robots probably will be used for military purposes as well.

Yes, and not to mention what non-state actors will be able to do with this technology. I'm sure there will be a day in the future when a terrorist attack is carried out by hacked robots.

Despite all that I'm an optimist. I think reducing things like medical expertise to near zero cost will be such a huge boon to humanity, and I suspect most of this robotics power will be relatively decentralized. I don't really believe in dystopian narratives where corporate overlords own the world and the rest of us are reduced to serfs.