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Images from space reveal an enormous X-shaped building rising up from rocky terrain in southwestern China. This is a huge nuclear fusion research facility, analysts say, and it could be a sign China is leaping ahead in the quest to harness this futuristic energy source.

It could also mean they are amping up nuclear weapons development.

Decker Eveleth, an analyst at US-based research organization the CNA Corporation, has been among those watching this facility for years. In 2020, a US official released images purporting to show various potential Chinese nuclear locations, including the site near Mianyang in Sichuan province.

At this point, it was basically “a patch of dirt,” Eveleth told CNN. But after Covid shutdowns were lifted, construction accelerated. The project is described as a “laser fusion” facility in contract documents obtained by Eveleth and seen by CNN.

If the facility is indeed a laser facility, it will offer a unique way of studying materials in extreme conditions. It allows scientists to create “pressures that are typically found in the center of stars or in nuclear weapons,” said Brian Appelbe, a research fellow from the Centre for Inertial Fusion Studies at Imperial College London.

Eveleth says the four giant arms shown in the satellite image are “bays” which will be able to shoot lasers at the tall, central tower, which houses a target chamber containing hydrogen isotopes. The laser energy fuses the hydrogen together to create a burst of energy in a process called ignition.

Nuclear fusion offers the tantalizing prospect of abundant, clean energy without the long-lived radioactive waste problem of nuclear fission, the world’s current nuclear energy technology. Countries and companies across the world are in a race to master it.

The US has long been a leader. The National Ignition Facility in California, which also uses laser-ignition technology, made a huge fusion energy breakthrough in 2022. In a world first, NIF scientists achieved a successful nuclear fusion reaction with a net energy gain (although they didn’t count the energy needed to power the lasers).

It was a big step forward in the decades-long quest to recreate on Earth the reaction which powers the sun and other stars. But this new facility in China could be a sign China is starting to to edge ahead.

“It signals that they are serious about fusion” said Melanie Windridge, CEO of Fusion Energy Insights, an industry monitoring organization. “They are being decisive, moving quickly and getting things done.”

Eveleth estimates China’s Mianyang research center will be around 50% bigger than the United States’ NIF and, once completed, likely the biggest facility of its kind in the world.

Its size could have advantages. A larger laser allows higher pressures and more material can be compressed, potentially increasing the energy achieved from nuclear fusion experiments, Appelbe told CNN. Although, he cautioned, achieving a successful fusion experiment is “extremely challenging” even with a very large laser.

CNN contacted China’s Ministries of National Defense and of Science and Technology for comment but had not heard back at the time of publication.

Experts say the facility also gives China the ability to research nuclear weapons.

China and the US are both parties to the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, which prohibits nuclear explosions.

The level of energy unleashed by nuclear weapons is very difficult to simulate with computers and other conventional methods. This is where laser-ignition fusion facilities can help, Eveleth said. They can shine high-powered lasers onto various materials to simulate the conditions in the first few microseconds after a nuclear explosion.

“Any country with an NIF-type facility can and probably will be increasing their confidence and improving existing weapons designs,” William Alberque, a nuclear policy analyst at the Henry L. Stimson Centre, told Reuters.

A positive interpretation of the facility is that it provides reassurance China isn’t planning any explosive nuclear testing, Eveleth said. But, he added, it could also allow them to develop more sophisticated designs, including smaller nuclear weapons.

Some experts believe the Mianyang site may end being a different kind of fusion facility, a hybrid of fusion and fission.

“If this proves to be true, it is particularly alarming,” said Andrew Holland, chief executive of the Fusion Industry Association. This would be homegrown Chinese tech and “likely more powerful than anything of that type in Western countries.”

Regardless, the facility “is clearly part of an ambitious program,” Holland told CNN.

The US is still ahead in the fusion race for now, he added, but “China is moving fast” and has shown it can move from concept to completion much faster than any government programs.

“It is time to build, it is time to invest,” Holland said. “If the US and its allies do not, then China will win this race.”

[–] Lugh 1 points 11 months ago

For anybody interested in such things, this guy is one of the best English language news sources on Chinese space developments.

[–] Lugh 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Active euthanasia is legal in a few countries for terminally ill patients.

That doesn't seem an accurate description of the situation. Yes, doctors and nurses sometimes 'help people along' in their final hours or even days, that is not the same thing as the euthanasia being described here.

[–] Lugh 184 points 11 months ago (23 children)

As sad as this topic is, this is a much better way to go than a prolonged miserable painful death where you suffer the last months of a terminal disease.

[–] Lugh 1 points 11 months ago

The sci-fi/thriller fan in me often looks at developments like this and wonders what terrorists are going to do with this technology one day. Seems like a perfect way to destroy underwater cables and oil rigs.

[–] Lugh 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I wonder with all the billions investors are pouring into OpenAI, did they even hire one single competent lawyer? Maybe they sacked them when they got rid of all the ethics people.

[–] Lugh 2 points 11 months ago

Can't innovate or compete on the global stage? Use tariffs and National Security as an excuse.

[–] Lugh 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No shit

It's obvious to some of us, but not to many. Hence why it's so important to keep saying it. Particularly at a UN summit about the future.

[–] Lugh 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's bizarre that in 2024 the UN permanent security council has two European countries (three if you count Russia as Europe) and zero representation from Africa, India or South America. It seems like a strange relic from the past where France and the British Empire were still world powers.

People often criticize the UN for being a toothless talking shop. While that criticism has plenty of merit, it still has some effectiveness.

In particular, this shows a commitment to the direction of travel of global society in the 21st century. It recognizes the danger of AI and warfare and of warfare spreading to outer space.

I was surprised by how much of it was about rejecting current models of financing and International Development. Again, there is only a weak commitment to concrete action right now, but it indicates where majority thinking is heading.

[–] Lugh 2 points 11 months ago

With the issue of hallucinations. There is no sign of a solution to this problem and it renders much of the potential applications useless. It doesn't matter in art generation, but I would never want to trust it with a life or death decision, or even one that was slightly important.

[–] Lugh 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

*So, what exactly is this device? That remains one of the biggest questions. According to The Times, Ive and Altman have discussed how generative AI could revolutionize the way people interact with computers. Their vision is to create a device that can handle complex tasks far beyond the capabilities of traditional software. It’s rumored that last year’s discussions were inspired by touchscreen technology, potentially taking cues from the original iPhone.

I am simultaneously intrigued and mystified. I'm trying to figure out how a combination of a touchscreen and generated AI could be a revolutionary new advanced way to interact with software. I guess we will have to wait and see.

[–] Lugh 19 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I think renewable energy's decentralized nature is one of its most underappreciated features. You could never imagine a local community building a conventional electricity plant, they are centralized and that is the job of government.

I suspect the future will have much more local decentralized projects of this nature. When you can have robots running factories without the need for humans, why not self-finance and build these at the community level too? It's entirely feasible, and many people will want to do such things. It's initiatives like this that make me doubt the future will be dystopian.

[–] Lugh 20 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Rough calculations suggest that, on current trends, adding 12 hours of storage to the entire US grid would cost around $500 billion and pay for itself within a few years. By contrast, upgrading the US transmission grid could cost $7 trillion over 20 years.

Counterintuitively, electricity cables under the North Atlantic might be much more economical. It would not have the eminent domain and construction complexities of upgrading the US continental land grid. If this cost estimate is accurate, it may be much cheaper.

Is it really much more secure though? Wouldn't one well-placed underwater bomb knock it out of action for weeks or months?

If security was your top priority, surely decentralized microgrids with widely dispersed battery grid storage would be much more effective?

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