Lugh

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Hope might seem like an intangible thing to measure, but we can certainly measure the lack of it. Rising suicides and opioid deaths are just one facet of that.

Many people in the Western world see their part of the world as declining and getting more dystopian. Hope seems to be in decline. Odd, as if society were reconfigured, there's the possibility of abundance ahead with robots and AI doing most of the work.

Maybe it's a case of the darkest hour is just before the dawn?

Hope and the Life Course: Results From a Longitudinal Study of 25,000 Adults

 

NOETIX's Bumi Robot isn't as impressive as humanoid robots by industry leaders like Boston Dynamics and Unitree, but its price is. If a Chinese company can sell humanoids at this price, then it will be able to do the same in 2030 & 2035 when they are much more advanced.

People often wonder how the future economy will function when AI & robots are capable of most jobs. What if that future economy also has most of us owning several robots, too?

 

One of the surprising side stories of 2020s AI has been the triumph of Open Source. It has beaten or equalled the privately funded efforts that investors have poured hundreds of billions of dollars into. Is Open-Source about to triumph again in robotics?

Unitree's robot hardware is on par with any competitor's; their primary remaining challenge is software. Closed-development companies like Boston Dynamics can still claim a lead there - for now.

But how long will that last?

Unitree has targeted open-source developers around the world, and it's paying off. Here's the latest example of many. Irony of ironies - it's Americans using Apple tech, doing the work to build Unitree as the world's leading robotics company.

Humanoid Everyday: A Comprehensive Robotic Dataset for Open-World Humanoid Manipulation

 

NVIDIA is helping to build our AI future without caring much about any negative consequences, and it's the same playbook when it comes to robotics. A world with a billion humanoid robots will be a world with hundreds of millions of humans displaced from paid work. Does this bother anyone at NVIDIA? Seemingly not.

You'd think they might worry, if only for purely selfish reasons. Do they think their sky-high stock market valuations & easy funding money will still exist in an economy where a 25-50% unemployment rate is the norm? If they do, they're not as smart at Economics as they are about AI.

The Next Wave of AI Is Physical: Inside Deepu Talla’s Keynote at RoboBusiness 2025

 

75% of the US stock market growth of the past few years has come from AI, but that was built on a promise. That AGI was just around the corner. Now companies like OpenAI are pivoting to selling ads and porn, a sure sign they do not think AGI is about to arrive.

If the AI bubble bursts, what happens afterwards?

I'd guess there will be a backlash against Big Tech. Perhaps 2025 is the high watermark of their political influence. AI is already broadly unpopular with many people, and that will only grow when they see if it has crashed the economy and their pensions.

AI, the technology, will still be with us, even if many of today's AI companies won't be. Even without AGI, it still has the potential to be transformative and economically disruptive. Rules-based businesses — legal, accounting, transaction, and claims processing could all be made obsolete. Humanoid robotics and self-driving, both aspects of AI, will eventually replace millions of human workers.

The AI bubble crashing would mean a recession. Recessions mean companies cut workforce numbers. Ironically, this time, they will be able to replace many of those people who were let go with AI. So the crash that AI causes will also speed its adoption.

 

People often complain about lab breakthroughs going nowhere in the real world. That makes CATL's claims for its Naxtra sodium-ion batteries interesting. CATL is the world's biggest battery maker. If anyone can bring a product to market, it can.

Current lithium-ion battery pack prices are around $100-150/kWh. CATL says one day sodium-ion batteries could cost just $10/kWh. That would require a lot to go right, and massive economies of scale. But that has worked for lithium batteries, and CATL has the heft to make economies of scale plausible.

If fossil fuels and nuclear energy are already feeling the heat from renewables plus lithium being cheaper, renewables plus sodium-ion batteries at $10/kWh would be an annihilation event for other energy sources. They could also usher in an age of micro-grids and decentralized energy, reducing reliance on big business, autocratic countries, and large corporations. Fingers crossed it happens soon.

CATL’s sodium-ion EV battery passes China’s new certification with 15-minute fast-charging capability

[–] Lugh 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

its eligibility criteria to those with Italian parents or grandparents.

That's the existing criteria for Irish passports. I'd guess the number of Americans with one grandparent born in Ireland or Italy must run to 10s of millions.

[–] Lugh 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In terms of advancing software, its extremely inefficient,

It amazes me how their BS on 'innovation' has infected broader culture and politics.

Look how little fundamental innovation there is in health, education and housing. All getting more expensive and out of reach.

[–] Lugh 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

NYC is more complex driving. It will be interesting to see how quickly they master it.

[–] Lugh 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Their hope seems to be to invent something proprietary and hypey that gets them bought up, not to actually build something functional.

They all seem to be chasing the dream of being unicorns (for the unintiated reading this, monopolist giants like Google/Meta, not magical horses).

Do American VCs even bother with start-ups who want to be small/medium sized firms, and have a solid case for making a few hundred million dollars every year?

[–] Lugh 3 points 2 months ago

Yes I did, and corrected it.

[–] Lugh 7 points 2 months ago

Oddly, 2024 new industrial robot numbers dropped for each of the EU, Japan and the US, too from the year before. Robot manufacturing means cheaper goods, and the EU, Japan & the US are already feeling the crunch. They don't seem to have any answer to the flood of good quality cheap electric vehicles that have made China the world's biggest car maker. These pressures are only going to get worse and worse.

2024 New Industrial Robots

290,000 - China

86,000 - EU

43,000 - Japan

34,000 - US

Chinese factories keep up robot roll-out despite global decline

[–] Lugh 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm glad this helps people with paralysis, but I can't help seeing the sci-fi dystopian side of tech like this.

What if some people are forced to have their inner thoughts decoded against their will? It sounds like just the thing some authoritarian thought police would use to root out their enemies.

Does that sound far-fetched? I'm sure if it were suggested as an upgrade to existing lie-detecting polygraph tests, lots of people would approve. Slippery slope.

[–] Lugh 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If you think of it as a pet alternative, its not so expensive. Food & vets bills for cats & dogs can easily be $1000 per year.

[–] Lugh 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Beijing’s complex night-time road conditions, characterized by low lighting, environmental interference – heavy rain in the summer and snow in the winter – pose significant challenges for autonomous driving systems.

People often question Level 4 self-driving and snowy conditions, it will be interesting to see how this goes.

[–] Lugh 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

The idea being pushed forth by YOUR link is that there is a concerted effort by an “AI” to push something subliminal.

Your assertion is contradicted by real world facts. There is lots of research showing AI engaging in deceptive and manipulative behavior.

Now it has another method to do that. As the article points out, we don't why it's doing this. But that's not the point. The point is it can, without us knowing.

[–] Lugh 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

Subliminal refers to stimuli that are presented below the threshold of conscious perception, meaning they are not consciously recognized but can still influence the mind or behavior

It's not subliminal to the AI, but then again, AI isn't analogous to human brains. But it is correct to say its subliminal to the humans building and designing the AI.

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