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A dumpster fire with an orange clown as president and firestarter in chief, burning all the good will the international allies had towards it. Deeply sad and worrisome, just when we needed them the most given the Russia/China threat.
NY -> Canada
US politics doesn't get nearly as much coverage here. A lot of Canadians don't realize just how absolutely fucked everything is down south, which is dangerous given the close proximity. Major news comes through but the nuance doesn't.
I have a Canadian friend who only gets a small bit of news about what goes on in America and downplays anyone who lives here as overreacting when we say shit is getting worse. Our friend group helps keep him more informed, but since he has family in the middle east he also has the mindset of "things can get a lot worse".
Denmark: If I had to average it out, we are getting pretty fucking tired of their shit in a relatively quiet sort of way. And very wary of the logical conclusion of a process we've seen happen before, right next door.
There are of course some people who are still stuck in the eighties and are unable to adapt to rapidly changing circumstances. I would characterize them as "confused".
Ultimately though, we can't bring the US' house in order for them, and when that rubber band finally snaps under the tension of stoked civil division, Denmark's going to have other concerns of its own to attend to, many of which will be a direct consequence of America turning completely inwards (and hopefully staying that way, frankly). Fortunately, there's enough people who can see it that there's a fair amount of focus on strategic decoupling and preparation.
US ex pat who lives in Denmark (before this absolutely dumpster fire of an administration).
That's how I see the news here too, generally a bit tired of the US' shit and pretty keenly aware of some of the consequences.
Everyone I know tries to go there and buy from there as little as possible, which is a nice effect
Man would I love to be an expat lol
It's good! Really good. Fucking hard sometimes. I'm lucky enough to do it with a lovely partner but you can feel so much more alone than you ever have imo. But it's very rewarding and lovely. It's nice to be able to choose a little of cultural and political stuff that you really identify with rather than whatever you got originally
Thanks for the added perspective! To synthesize the media landscape of an entire country a pretty tall order, so it's nice to know you think I wasn't completely off.
In any case, it's good to have you with us. Probably not the worst place to be when this shit show inevitably ends in tears.
Yeah, of course there's a lot of opinions about it. I've even met a guy who has never left Continental Europe who is pro Trump. but for the most part it's people deciding to not vacation there anymore.
People from all over are very welcoming of us. I'm always prepared for some pushback of "fucking Americans" and it just never comes.
Tak! Der er virkelig dejlig at være her :) vi elsker Danmark og kan rigtig godt lide vores anderledes livsstil her
We used to have an occasional visitor who was an avid Trump-proponent. He didn't have particularly nuanced views on politics, economics, civics or... pretty much anything other than comic books, computer games and internet memes.
It will probably not surprise you that he was also a massive troll. He's no longer welcome on the premises.
Og det er godt at høre at I nyder livet. Det er til syvende og sidst pointen med det hele :)
How seriously are you taking the whole Greenland thing? The attempted annexation of Canada has completely turned the political discourse and national mood on it's head here, but he doesn't see us as a legitimate military target, while Greenland apparently is.
Quite seriously. When the neighborhood's largest collector of guns (and self-proclaimed 'leader' of the neighborhood watch they founded) develops a sudden case of rampant frothing fascism and starts loudly ranting about the benefits of committing armed burglary, people tend to take note.
The Murdoch-owned media in the US and abroad are complicit to the American Nazi coup, so don't expect people there to be informed about what is really happening.
Normal News:
Concerned and somewhat worried.
Mostly official-statement- and fact-driven. But that's normal German news culture (at least compared to the US and if you stay away from the fringe tabloid style media).
Social media:
I guess, that depends heavily on your bubble, as everywhere...
In the parts I am present in, it is source of constant amusement, as the events in the US and the views expressed by US people are just completely ridiculous to the more liberal part of Germany.
But this is probably different for the right wing bubbles, like that of AfD supporters.
Like others, I'll skip over social media, because it's a bit ill defined in English. Maybe it's different when you restrict it to a national language.
The news and social media here show the US imploding under Trump regime.
Kind of the same, although in Canada we're so close to them a lot of the nuance comes through in the news, as well.
So, the local media tend to portray the US as a pristine and perfect society.
That part couldn't be more different. We legitimately have been doing better on a lot of social measures for decades, but don't really have a distinct culture, other major trading partners, and are just a lot smaller. All that adds up to a weird, resentful inferiority complex that colours everything, even when we've been close and interdependent.
As far as I can tell, even Western Europe falls into the trap of romanticising America pretty often. Hollywood has been no joke.
Australia, sill sickeningly bootlicking the Nazi Reigime of America.
I’m curious about where and how your cousin gets their information.
If it’s from Facebook and Fox News, I could see them not seeing ICE news, but it’d be hard to miss from any other source.
Not entirely sure where my cousin gets his information. He may be mostly getting it from social media. But it is possible that he still watches traditional news. Although, the traditional news in my home country reports about the US here and there. My mom still mostly watch news from our home country, but even she doesn't know about the ICE arrests.
Yeah, as an american I am well aware of the ICE raids. It is weird your cousin doesnt know about it.
that staments doesn't make sense, since presume their cousins just immigrated to the US.
Asking how "social media" portrays the US is not very useful since social media is designed to show each individual user a view that's tailored to them. And I haven't watched the "regular" news in many years, haven't had a TV or newspaper subscription in half a decade. So take this all with a huge grain of salt when it comes to the "general" view.
Here in Canada, the US has always been seen as a bully who talked a good game about economics and freedom but that didn't measure up in reality. They were respected and admired for how big and strong they were, and we definitely absorbed a lot of American culture, but there's always been an undercurrent of concern and resentment. Now, with the reelection of Trump and subsequent events, all of that has blown wide open. They've literally declared their intent to forcibly annex us, and had the gall to even say it would be for our own good. They have attacked us economically for reasons that are ludicrous on their face. Their social cohesion is collapsing, they've replaced their top officials with ideologues and cultists, they're actively destroying any credibility they may have earned over the decades in pretty much every field. I don't think most would go so far as to call them an adversary nation (as I would) but most no longer consider them an ally.
The official news still treads lightly on some of this, but Canada has no choice but to pay close attention. One look at the map makes it obvious why. I think a lot of us recognize that this is a crisis situation. We do have a fifth column of America-worshippers among us still, and that's a major part of the problem, but overall Canadians seem pretty united on this.
Australia: its seen as the world greatest reality TV show.
Some of the extremist mainstream media are trying to imitate us politics like sky news has a segment called "lefties losing it" but more if like a drama summary of a reality TV show.
The whole us system and its whole extremism is a joke here. Also we routinely joke about us school shooters and that its 3rd world country behaviour.
My government news agency basically copies msnbc narrative for major stories, or smaller stories if there's a link to EU.
It's a bit difficult for me to say "how our news portray USA", because this is of course in comparison to how it's portrayed elsewhere. And I don't really know very well how it's portrayed elsewhere. But, here's raw data for you to analyse. You can try to figure out what might have been news elsewhere but was not in Finland, and also, if there's anything about USA that was news in Finland but not elsewhere. Then you can say yourself what the answer seems to be regarding Finland.
So, firstly, within the newest 50 articles on any subject published by Yle, the national broadcasting organization of Finland, five have to do with USA. (Also, I happened to notice that the 52th article on that list is about USA as well :) )
Then, let's narrow the search by choosing only news with Topic:USA and go through all headlines from the last few days, starting from the most recent one:
18th Oct:
- Trump pressured the TV Star Jimmy Kimmel to be shelved – media company after another must yield
- A capital investor giant from USA to invest over 100 billions to Britain
- A shooter killed three policemen in USA
- Trump planning to define Antifa as a terroristic organisation
- Jimmy Kimmel's tv program was shelved after the host commented on the murder of Charlie Kirk
- King Charles praised Trump for engagement in solving conflicts
- President: Syria and Israel close to a security agreement (BTW, here the "President" refers to the President of Syria)
17th Oct: - Fed lowered its key rate by 0.25 percent points
- CEOs of Reddit and other internet communities to witness at a hearing about radicalization
- Trump's programme in Britain began with a visit to the Windsor castle – demonstrators have gathered to London
- A café based on the iconic Central Perk from the Friends will be opened in New York
- The Russia is wooing USA regarding energy affairs
- Trump: Republicans planning to exceptionally hold a party conference around the time of next year's elections
- Wall Street closed during a downhill, Fed's decision on key rate is being waited for
16th Oct: - Tyler Robinson sued for the murder of Charlie Kirk
- The trial of the person accused of shooting the leader of a health insurance company, Luigi Mangiore, to begin in December
- Belarus pardoned 25 prisoners
- The presidential couple of USA has left for a state visit to Britain
- USA wants Qatar to continue at the role of an intermediator regardless of Israel's military strike
- A video shows USA's strike to what is said to have been a drug ship
- Trump sues New York Times regarding news coverage on the connections with Epstein – demands 15 billion dollars
- USA: Columbia is no longer a partner in the fight against drugs
- The presidential couple of USA will arrive to Britain
- Wall street closed in an uphill
- Washington Post: The suspected shooter of Kirk confessed to the deed online
- Trump: Netanyahu will not strike Qatar again
- Trump signed an order for sending the national guard to Memphis
15th Oct: - Trump: USA struck on a Venezuelan vessel, three died
- Ex Federal DEA Maurene Comey sues Trump administration
- FBI: DNA found near the location of Kirk's murder is corresponds to the sample from the suspect
- Trump: Foreign workers are welcome – earlier hundreds of South Koreans were apprehended
- China and USA have reached a preliminary agreement on the ownership of TikTok
- Officers from USA visiting Belarus – they followed the "Zapad" wargame
- The US foreign secretary Rubio promises "unwavering support" to Israel
- China accuses Nvidia of breaching laws on competition
- The trade negotiations between USA and China continue in Madrid
- Trump threatens to declare a national emergency because of the resistance in Washington
- Elon Musk's Starlink is reporting about a service interruption – the interruption remained short
- The suspect of Charlie Kirk's shooting is not coöperating with authorities
Oct 14th:
(etc.)
The following articles from the last two days were not tagged with "USA":
- The number one start of women's track and field thanked God for her unbeliavable win – is already better than Usain Bolt in one thing
- Trump: Putin has betrayed me
- Analysis: EU is hypocritical about trade with the Russia, but Trump is showing more and more weird kind of plays
- Microsoft invested 30 billion dollars in Britain