Edit: Guess who won't face any accountability.
I love reddit screenshots of a twitter post.
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I love the fact that twitter screenshots are still racially segregated on reddit
I still can't believe they wanted people to send pictures of their arms to prove they are a person of color before posting/commenting. Okay, maybe I can believe that. What I can't believe is that anyone defended it
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It's not a screenshot, reddit changes their images so if you try the old right click save as they can tell you aren't in their app and add the frame around it for free advertising. If things get embedded then they are still getting their recognition. Not a bad idea for Lemmy tbh...
Voyager has an option to do just that. The Voyager watermark is also optional.
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Yeah, because only one side cares about language and the words we use. The other side is a bunch of disengenous fuck bags with zero beliefs outside of economics
bunch of disengenous fuck bags with zero beliefs outside of economics
I feel "economice" is too wide of a phrase to be used with these cunts.
They don't believe in economics, they believe in self service, control, and grifting as much as they can.
It's not economics, it's taking advantage of the mentally disabled half of the population.
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Conservative economics are not actually good economics. I hate that even liberals like to concede to the “economics” brand that conservatives talk about.
As someone who has actually taken whole assed courses on economics.... What economics?
Whether conservative or liberal, politicians don't make economic decisions, they make political decisions.
I have yet to see any politician who consistently made, or even publicly recognised, the better economic decision.
Economically, a well trained, and healthy population is a good thing. So providing relief for the costs of being healthy through something like a healthcare program, is in everyone's best interest. Ensuring that people can get the training they need to be the most efficient they can be, is in everyone's best interest. These things are good for the economy.
Conservatives make it seem like they're making choices that are good for the economy, and they certainly make statements that try to convince everyone that's the case, but bluntly, they make capitalistic decisions. Decisions that help capitalists. If they can rob, steal, kill, or maim someone to bump profits, they'll do it, and their friends in government will help them do it, and get protection for doing it.
They're not interested in the economy, they're interested in their pocketbook, and whatever make it fatter. Even if the cost is future economic downturn, they'll do it if it bumps profits this quarter.
.... Like firing an entire department to save on the wages of the people that they fired, when those people are still needed, and now you'll need to spend more money to hire replacements for almost all of them, but this quarters numbers will look amazing, and the CEO, and his buddies in the c-suite will get their bonuses, and the shareholders will get a few dollars more per share in dividends this quarter.
They wouldn't know good economics if they were surrounded by it. They can't see that far.
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Fear of retribution by the current president is why.
Donald Trump has taken cancel culture too far.
That's basically the playbook.
The right cries free speech, but demands everyone else's free speech be removed.
Слава Україні, Cлава Палестині.
I sure wouldn't say no if they got rid of Stephen Crowder, since he's the one in this meme.
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Being fired from your job over things you said has nothing to do with the right to free speech. That right means the government won't punish you. It does not stop anyone else from punishing you.
But you can easily make the argument MSNBC is suppressing there own "journalists" speech to not face backlash from the government. Just because the government isn't directly coming after an individual doesn't mean that they aren't at least attempting to suppress speech.
We've plenty of examples of Trump ignoring outlets he doesn't favor. And I wouldn't be surprised if he's outright banned some from attending press events.
What if the government is putting pressure on the organization.
Then it becomes a free speech issue.
You mean like back in 2020-21, when the Biden admin was putting pressure on Twitter to ban anyone who was critical of their COVID policies, and they even ended up deplatforming the guy who pioneered mRNA vaccines?
Yup, that is classic suppression. Of course you could argue that is was for the benefit of public health as opposed to a witch hunt to get a bunch of people fired for not worshipping an alt-right propagandist.
You don't think celebrating the murder of a political enemy on national TV isn't setting a dangerous precedent to encourage more political violence from both sides? Do you really want to live in a world where people just get shot for having a different opinion from yours?
First of all no one did this on national TV. Perhaps you referring to edge lords on the Internet making snide or rude comments. This is nothing to worry about. I heard people talk about hanging or shooting Obama for several years when I lived in Idaho. Celebrating and fantasizing about killing the President did absolutely nothing.
Second, we already live in a society where the right wing is constantly calling for violence. They have been openly talking about killing people from the Democratic party for decades. Rush Limbaugh was particularly found of this and he received the Medal of Freedom.
Let's be clear here, a couple of edgy people have celebrated his death. A lot of people recognize he was a piece of shit and are not upset at all other than to say no one should have to die this way.
The violent rhetoric comes regularly from the conservatives. Even the president of the United States sent a message he was bringing the Department of War to Chicago to enact an apocalypse. Kind of blows a few edge lords cheering on Kirk's death out of the motherfucking water.
Well, since you can clearly tell the difference between talking about killing someone and actually killing them, I'm sure it won't be too difficult to tell the difference between fantasizing about someone's dead and actually celebrating it.
But the real problem is that while Kirk may have been a dunderhead, at least he was still willing to have a debate. The next guy they're gonna send likely isn't going to be so kind. You want fascism? Because killing the people who are willing to talk is how you get fascism.
No one is celebrating, this is the same lie told about Muslims celebrating 9/11. This is second rate propaganda and I am surprised you would peddle in this nonsense.
Kirk was much more than a dunderhead. Whatever the fuck that means. He was a hate monger and declared so by several reputable organizations. He is a horrible Martyr, one only a truly white supremacist could love.
I am under no illusion about fascism. We are a fascist nation that is slipping deeper into a techno feudalism state. I agree that Fascism thrives on violence. Going around killing people is what they already are doing. Just par for the course.
So many innocent children die every year needlessly thanks to gun proliferation. We should be collectively crying about this national loss we face year after year. It is now the number one killer of children outpacing motor vehicle collisions.
Instead we are trying to lionize a loser.
No one is celebrating
You literally said in your previous post that all the people who celebrated were edgelords, meaning there WERE people celebrating. Which is it? How about you get your own story straight before accusing me of peddling second-rate propaganda.
He was a hate monger
Whatever the fuck that means...
I agree that Fascism thrives on violence. Going around killing people is what they already are doing. Just par for the course.
Okay, so your plan for fighting fascism is doing the exact same thing that you say fascism thrives on... do you really expect that to work?
Instead we are trying to lionize a loser.
I'm certainly not trying to lionize him. I'm trying to get it through your thick head that making him a martyr for his cause was a phenomenally stupid idea, and everyone who was celebrating it is an absolute retard.
As objectionable and annoying as his words may have been while he was alive, none of them ever managed to fire up their base quite the way his death did. All this has accomplished is to pour oil on the fire. You thought fascism was bad now? Well, MAGA just got their Horst Wessel. It's about to get way worse.
Please provide proof massive amounts of people are cheering in the streets or holding block parties he is dead or just do us a favor and shut the fuck up. A few edge lords talking shit is insignificant. It is clear you are spreading propaganda at this point.
A hate monger is a purveyor of hate. It has a very clear definition unlike dunderhead which is meant to downplay the fascist little cunt he was.
What part about us living in a fascist state are you not getting. Open up your eyes for a second. We have a police force abducting legal residents, torturing them, and then sending them to random foreign countries to be imprisoned without a trial.
We are already there and have been for several decades. Did you miss the US toppling democracies and installing fascist dictators for funzies during the Cold War?
I am trying to get it through your white supremacists loving ass that this guy is the shittiest damn martyr ever. A racist asshat who openly advocated for the worst of humanity. A guy that unironically said people have to die to protect the second amendment and then was killed by a gunman.
Maga was already doing it all already, give me a fucking break. All you spew is propaganda and you are acting like a fascist apologist who wants to downplay a racist misogynist loser. Have fun erecting his statue and turning him into a saint.
Listen man, you can be angry all you want, but it's not up to me or you to determine who's a "good" martyr and who isn't. All that matters is that he was popular, and Kirk was VERY popular. Which is why it was such a tremendously stupid idea to make him die for his beliefs.
If he was still alive, he probably would have made a mistake at some point, gotten himself involved in some scandal or another, or otherwise ruined his reputation, but now he'll forever be the guy who got murdered over mere words. The satisfaction will be short lived and the regret will be long, because you can bet they're going to trot him out at every single rally from now on, as the guy that leftism killed because it had no other arguments.
Truly a profoundly stupid idea to be celebrating that.
Your just pushing that garbage propaganda built on a series of misconceptions.
It is clear that the right could care less, everything is an excuse for them to take away our rights. If it wasn't Kirk it would be some other made up bullshit reason. You fail to see this which is why you fall for the propaganda.
Edit: In regards to George Floyd, could you imagine how many on the right would have lost their jobs if the left was authoritarian shit stains like they are? The right literally still openly mocks and makes fun of his murder. The more I think about this the hollower your words become.
I hate to break it to you, but people were in fact fired for openly mocking George Floyd's death. Just because you don't remember it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
I counted fifteen people total in the article. Are you fucking joking? They were not saying general things either, straight up racist vile shit and in positions of power like police officers.
Comparing a few people getting fired for racist statements and people getting fired for not praising Kirk are entirely different things and you should be ashamed for even bringing it up.
You might win a shitty conservative debate with garbage like this, but all I see is an apologist of the worst kind.
Kirk's anti-woke mob has already gotten over 100 people fired and counting. They are just getting started. How many major television personalities were fired like Jimmy Kimmel?
Most importantly they are still mocking his death on the regular without consequences.
Edit: Kirk's words about Floyd, "I am also going to offer some context and some nuance about the death of George Floyd that no one dares to say out loud. Which is that this guy was a scumbag. Now, does that mean he deserves to die? That's two totally different things — of course not."
Wow, so he is allowed the nuance, but everyone who says the same thing about him gets fired. Pathetic.
Let me get this straight: you're cool with a guy getting murdered for exercising his right to freedom of speech, but when people are getting fired for applauding that, that's a bridge too far? Seems a little precious if you ask me.
You can't just demand freedom of speech when it suits you, and disavow it when it doesn't. That's what fascists do.
Man, you have zero reading comprehension. I am going to do us both a favor at this point.
No, I’m pretty sure I got it right. You believe free speech for the people you agree with, and a bullet to the neck for everyone else. You’re just like any other fascist out there.
Constitutional right to free speech? Yes. The overall philosophical concept of free speech? Less so.
It's just that only one side gets punished for it.
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Fuck man. We are at peak stupid right now. Kirk was a piece of shit, the people leading the us are pieces of shit. Ceo's and leaders of racist/ fascist movements are getting shot in the streets.
The people are pissed, we are entering a tipping point
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There is some notable discrepancy between how USA citizens describe their (theoretical & practical) "free speech" vs how the rest of the world sees their "free speech" in the same regard.
It's def a complex subject but I don't think a lot of people think USA is at the forefront of this.
(But it is extensively marketed - most countries/cultures/regimes have such tidbits, which differ a lot.)
Both sides are held to their own standards – but only one side actually has standards.
If you have zero standards, as does the right, what is there to hold anyone to?
Worse, when you’ve swaddled yourself in fanatic Christianity, where the only one who can judge you is a god, and he’ll forgive all your sins if you accept some guy into your heart, and the way to do that is to say you have, you can do literally anything and be accepted.
The rest of us hold each other accountable. As we should.
Don’t pine for the blind acceptance of sociopaths – it’s infernal for all of us.
Freedom of speech is words that they will bend. Metallica taught me that in 1988.
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The media is captured by the right.
That's a VERY, VERY bad sign for our nation and democracy in general, and, historically, that's an indication that things about about to get REAL dark.
We should start printing flyers expressing views like the views this guy was fired for and posting them up all over our cities. We can't rely on the media to be able to express truth anymore. And posting said views on here or other, more censored, social media isn't going to cut it anymore. Doesn't reach enough people, and not the right people. The people on the fence. The people on the middle. The people that will end up being captured by the right because they control the media.
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Posts like this, and most comments to be honest. Really makes me question how low the bar is in the US in terms of general education. You all talk about "Freedom of speech" while not having a single clue as to what it actually is.
Freedom of speech, protects you from your government (with some exceptions, often being, threats, incitement, disclosing classified information, and things of that nature), that's it.
Freedom of speech, is all of those people saying all of those things, without facing criminal charges or other forms of retaliation from the government.
It does not, will not, and never have, protected you from losing employment because of what you say.
Freedom of speech, protects you from your government (with some exceptions, often being, threats, incitement, disclosing classified information, and things of that nature), that’s it.
It doesn't protect you from the government in any practical sense. Just ask Hewy Newton or Fred Hampton or MLK. Ask Mahmoud Khalil or the 25 pro-Palestinian demonstrators arrested just three weeks ago. Ask Tatiana Martinez, A Colombian TikTok influencer in Los Angeles was arrested by ICE agents during a live stream.
The FBI has had task forces dedicated to COINTELPRO since the 60s. Freedom of Speech in the US is entirely fictitious.
What we're seeing in Mass Media is a trickle-down effect resulting from the US involvement in contracts to Tech Companies and large banks with ownership of private news outlets. Paramount settling a case over disparagement in a 60 Minutes interview with Trump for $16M came on the heels of an FCC decision about their merger with Skydance. The Bezos Post firing senior correspondents and staffing up with reactionary hacks comes as DOGE threatens a host of government contracts with Amazon's primary moneymaker, Amazon Web Services. Bloomberg getting peppered with lawsuits in Trump-friendly courts is a secondary result of Mike's feud with Trump on a national stage.
You are being wilfully ignorant if you refuse to draw a straight line between business sector firings of highly placed journalists and the parent companies of these media businesses cutting deals with the current administration.
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You managed to be technically correct while missing the entire point of the post.
OP's quote is about being able to voice controversial opinions without consequences, not the legal protection specified in the constitution. He is claiming that only one side is ever held to account for saying odious things.
Adhering narrowly to facts without considering context is not demonstrative of good thinking, nor is it typical of good debating.
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