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[–] commander@lemmy.world 64 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Someone actually figured out that a service company competing with a shit ton of other service companies in a service economy needs people that work service jobs to be able to afford their services. They won't raise wages themselves alone because it's not like McDonald's workers will spend the raised wages solely at McDonald's. They have other essentials and non-Mcdonalds services to pay for. They need every place to have their minimum wage increased and then McDonald's try to capture a larger portion of everyone's higher income that exceeds their higher labor cost. Stagnant incomes means non-essential services like McDonald's get squeezed out

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

i read that in the calm and convincing voice of cardamon, the 8 y.o. landlord of Bee and Puppycat, who's the most reasonable character in the entire show.

this has nothing to do with what you said; i just find it amazing how i associate certain voices to certain written pieces of text.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

It's expensive. It's shitty, even for fast food. They let a rapist felon use one of their locations for a photoshoot to improve his image.

Yeah, I'm good on McD's.

[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 258 points 3 days ago (3 children)

This reads like the wealthy realizing, in real-time, that the poor can't spend money they don't have, more than anything else. Like, no shit, dude.

Use your privileged position to make actual change if you care so much. He doesn't though, so he's not going to. Instead, he'll make sure we all know that we can get an entire combo for only $5. Wow! Truly a hero of the down-trodden, this fucking guy. I'd love to be proved wrong, but we all know where this is headed. His virtue signaling doesn't change that, just like it doesn't change that stunt he pulled with potus and all that it so clearly represented. Just more mealy-mouthed lies from another worm in a suit's all it is.

[–] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This reads like the wealthy realizing, in real-time, that the poor can't spend money they don't have, more than anything else.

If only someone warned them about this!

[–] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 29 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Yeah, that's like, the most classic of Marxism

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, Ford was horrible, but that's one thing that's reasonable about Fordism. He knew that if he payed his employees well enough then they'd have money to spend. I don't know how the idiots who are wealthy today don't get that, but they assume their wealth is infinite and comes from nothing.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seriously, this is Economics 101 shit and everyone in a position of power just pretends it doesn't apply for some dumb ass excuse.

The more money people have, the more they will spend.

The more money spent in an economy, the more things are bought, the more opportunities for others to start businesses and make profit present themselves.

The system works better for everyone when money keeps circulating. That's why UBI is becoming a popular solution to this problem.

The majority of money is stagnant in the US.

It has been siphoned from the working class and is currently kept in the assets of the rich.

And it needs to be redistributed for the system to work well again.

[–] goatmeal@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

It's like the prisoners dilemma. We were top left. Some companies thought they could pay less and still reap the benefits of other employers paying well, now everyone does that we're bottom right

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago

The guy probably donates to the republicans that help him suppress wages and give him massive tax breaks but offers up this nugget of wisdom the rest of us have lived with for decades now?

[–] DERRALEXANO@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Get fucked fascist burger “oh no leopards are eating our faces instead of our burgers” hahaha

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 2 points 1 day ago

Seconded lmao

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (7 children)

The closest McDonald's to me has a local BBQ joint right next to it at about the same price point. There's zero value prop, but these dumb-dumbs had to realize it after they lost a shitload of customers.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

They only take the money printer off autopilot when it stops printing money.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 33 points 2 days ago

Ohh I am sorry you doubled your price over last decade...

Did the wages double?

I hope idiots stop eating your slop... Deny the parasite profit.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 2 days ago (11 children)

"skipping breakfast or eating at home"

Look, McDonald's breakfast is pretty damn good, and is super nostalgic. But holy fuck 1030 cutoff and like $6 for a mass produced, frozen sausage patty, English muffin, and a Kraft single is insane.

Also, I just meal prepped us an awesome breakfast for the next two weeks. Like 15lbs of chunked potatoes, mushrooms, onions, hot sausage slices, and bell peppers, seasoned with Chile powder and garlic butter, oven roasty-toasted to golden brown, and tossed into containers in the fridge.

Then in the morning, I plate a big scoop or so of that and microwave it until it's hot, and fry two eggs with runny yolks, topped with salt and fresh ground black pepper and some hot sauce (like valentina) on the plate. Fork, toast, glass of milk or coffee.

Fuck you, McDonald's. Like 30 meals-worth was only like $35 bucks, and kicks the shit out of most things.

I look forwards to breakfast everyday now.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

my local bagel shop sells a fresh bagel on a fresh egg with cheese for $7.

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[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You shouldn't be keeping food in the fridge for 2 weeks. 4-5 days max. You should immediately freeze it when you cook it. Don't wait a few days before freezing it.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...might let it cool first, then freeze it!

[–] RalphFurley@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Definitely need to cool it. Even if not freezing. When I worked in restaurants we had a cooling shelf in the walk-in that we had to stir the 40lb batch of ground beef now and then

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[–] syreus@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was always told mushrooms have a limited shelf life after being cooked, 3-4 days.

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Good point. I should freeze it all in portions, soon, maybe tomorrow.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The worst feeling is getting food poisoning or even just mild gastric upset and not knowing why.

As I get older I have started listening more to the traditional wisdoms and not eating the pizza that has been out of refrigeration for two days.

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[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 72 points 2 days ago

Lmao "the poors can't afford our shit... maybe now is the time to advocate for higher minimum wage" fuck off corpo dickheads

[–] forrgott@lemmy.zip 103 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you’re upper-income, earning over $100,000, things are good … What we see with middle- and lower-income consumers, it’s actually a different story.

When had this ever not been true? What a windbag.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 96 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Over $100K ain't chump change, but that also isn't the line where "upper income" starts.

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/heres-minimum-salary-required-be-considered-upper-class-2025

The Pew Research Center defines upper-income households as having incomes greater than $169,800, based on three-person households. For a household with a single earner and no additional income, that $169,800 is the minimum salary required to be upper class. With two earners, each with the same salary, that minimum would be $84,900 each.

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (8 children)

And the difference between that level of “upper class” vs the truly wealthy is insane.

Unless you’re in places like CA or NYC, $170k allows for a very comfortable life. It’s nothing to scoff at and it is absolutely beyond what most people in this country have.

But when thinking of the “upper class,” I think most people picture lush lives. Mansions, yachts, foreign vacations, private schools, house staff, etc.

I don’t think most people imagine someone who lives in a nice suburban neighborhood, saves enough money for retirement that they actually expect to retire in their 60s, and takes a modest vacation every year. But that’s closer to what $170k gets you. It’s comfortable and it’s a life most people would kill to have. But it’s a whole lot closer to a stereotyped “middle class” experience than it is to what most people imagine “upper class” to look like.

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[–] aramis87@fedia.io 77 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Psst, hey, got a handy hint for you: you can actually raise wages at your business without it being mandated by minimum wage laws.

[–] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 43 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Paying an employee minimum wages just means you'd pay them less if it was legal.

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[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that the CEO of McDonald's is aware of that.

The rationale here is that if they get minimum wage increasesed, they can raise their workers wages without the reality or perception that they're ceding a fiduciary advantage to their competitors.

It's a reality that needs to be addressed. Some major corp had to eventually acknowledge it. Everyone knew it, nobody wanted to be the first to say it.

The first step is admitting there is a problem. The gravity of even this first step, and the fact that it's from Trump's fucking gold standard for food and American business, is massive.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago

There’s always room in the CEO budget - George Bluth

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 34 points 2 days ago

this is the economy you helped create dickshitter.

[–] Mangoholic@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He can just pay them more than minimum wage lol

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

No, that's not how the modern economy works. A CEO can't just pay higher wages randomly. They have to adhere to some invisible laws guiding them towards paying the minimum wages they can get away with. If they pay more, they get fired and replaced with another CEO who pays less again.

The only way to make a company pay more is if it benefits the company or if it's forced by law, i.e. legally-mandated minimum wage. That, however, is a bad idea too IMHO because for one some businesses who're just barely profitable today would simply go out of business and people would lose their jobs, and also it would make human employees more expensive and companies would look towards automating their jobs away, because machinery would be more competitive.

IMHO the best solution is to give people money, but not through the workplace, but through a legally-mandated universal basic income that is handed out independent of whether you have a job. Otherwise, you're forcing people to go to work to be able to live and people would have to suck up whatever bad working conditions their workplace features just to be able to survive, i.e. the same we're seeing with medical insurance today when it's tied to work requirements.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

They actually kinda legally DO have to follow fiduciary duty towards their shareholders. If their shareholders were also all the workers of the company, this then wouldn't be a conflict to pay them more, right? But that's actually literally socialism and that's why socialism is a boogeyman

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[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 days ago (23 children)

I haven't gone to a mcdonald's by choice in almost 4 years now. When my meal rose from 12-13$ to 17-18$ I stopped going. Just for the chuckle I put that same meal into the app, it's now 22$ after tax. yea no I'll just go to apple bees or dominos and get more food for less.

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

As a Shareholder this man needs to be FIRED! If POORS can't Afford our Meals then we should RAISE the Prices so that NON POORS can Also not Eat our Food because for $15 you can get a MUCH BETTER HAMBURGER Elsewhere! And then we can FIRE Cooks too to save even MORE Money!

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