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Nobody has money to burn.

...Might help to mention what hemisphere you're in, or continent you're on? Or country? Or city?

The reason for your local change in nightlife could be anything from a wide, wide range of reasons, almost all of which depend heavily on where you are.

Let's not be like the uncouth Defaultist Americans that assume everybody in the world lives where they do. Let's be better, and let's provide a location when it's key info.

Trump economy. Enough said

It's a financial thing. There's a K shaped economy, with no middle class, and the lower class dealt with inflation for a while with credit card debt... and... those credit cards are filled up.

I imagine there's a lot less tourists since ICE started showing up in big numbers in LA. The presence of a large oppressice force also makes some question whether they want to go out or not, especially those close to the people who have been kidnapped.

People are terrified.

Everyone is more subdued, people are going into debt as prices continue to shoot up when they're already stretched to their limit, and ice is kidnapping people willy nilly

Oh, plus tourism is basically over

All in all, this doesn't surprise me. Things are getting very bad

I mean here in Canada why would I go to a bar and spend like $12 on a single pint of beer when I can go to the store and pay the same amount and get like 6 pints?

Back in my 20's when I could go to the bar and pay $1.50 for a pint of PBR, sure it made sense. it was cheaper and i was with friends. I could get drunk on the cheap and have a good time.

now? there's no point. Cheap Dive bars (the ones I used to frequent) are going the way of the buffalo and in my city there's literally like only one left out of the dozens I used to go to all the time. I'm not paying over $10 for a single beer. Plus the patrons that still do go to bars are crap. they all would rather be on their phones then have a conversation at the bar.

so to sum up A. it's more expensive and B. younger generations killed the vibe.

No money and too expensive. Your option for water is sold in a can that costs $5. Alcoholic drinks are almost double the price now. And at least for my city, the bar districts are now just full of assholes who post-pandemic seemed to forget how to act in public especially when alcohol is involved.

Too fucking expensive.

And at least for me, I have little interest in alcohol-centric outings because transportation becomes an issue.

Do you live in a college town?

I walk past a couple bars a lot and they seem to have the same amount of people. All the outside tables had folks last night.

I'm not going to bars because I'm unemployed. Like I say, if capital wants me to spend money they can give me some, first.

I was at a packed one last night for my friends that were DJing. I didn’t drink there though to save money

In addition to Summer Student Season, I hear there's a lot of ICE pouring through LA this year.

Fewer tourists from other nations would be a contributing factor. ICE in general may be more. Perhaps economy isn't as great as our Fuhrer wants us to think.

I think the effects of tariffs and unemployment and everything are starting to be felt.

I've seen a small decline in busy days at local bars or restaurants. I also live near areas that depend on summer tourism, and that is way down.

Thing is, as that goes down, so do the revenues/employees. As that happens, places close or cut employees.

bars and clubs run on disposable income.

People just spent a few hundred dollars taking their families to watch the 2 biggest movies of the summer and now in 2 weeks the kids return to school and need supplies. Money is tight right now and priorities.

The climbing gym is fucking packed though

of course they are all caught in the traffic jam at the Gotthard tunnel

No one wants some 20 year old jackass taping them for TikTok clout.

I just read some article about how Germany has supposedly been experiencing a decline in the club scene for some years, and how there's a word for it.

kagi

Not the article I was thinking of, but the word is clubsterben.

https://www.dw.com/en/is-berlin-in-a-club-death-spiral/a-70341859

Is Berlin in a 'club death' spiral?

Not in my experience, living and clubbing, in São Paulo. Can't really compare with pass years, since I'm being living here just for two years, but all the parties I go are really packed.

In addition to the economy thing that everyone else has already pointed out (and is totally valid)

I think it's worth pointing out that in the northern hemisphere it's summer right now, so if that's where you're located there's a lot of people going on vacations and having parties right now.

My social circles aren't exactly rolling in it, but at any given time over the summer, there's still at least a couple people I know are the beach, camping, having a BBQ or bonfire, or hanging out at a pool somewhere on their downtime when they might have been at a bar or something otherwise.

If you live in a touristy area, yeah, that's the economy, bars should be booming there.

I remember a couple years ago on a whim a couple of friends and I decided to go to a bar that's usually packed with a line well out the door of people waiting to get it. But it just happened to be a holiday weekend so lots of people had other plans, and we got in no problem.

I haven't noticed anything in particular, which country are you talking about?

Probably depends on the area, but I’m in a high COL work-focused one and I’ve been noticing people going on their phones more these days. Even the bartenders. It’s kinda sad.

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