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[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeh you can watch at lower volume with subtitles because even if you don't conciously look at them it still helps your brain interpret the sounds and make up for anything you miss due to the reduced volume.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Maybe if Gen X had ever learned to level audio correctly with limited spectrum and inverse dynamics we could understand what people were saying between explosions.

[–] tomcatt360@lemmy.zip 3 points 7 hours ago

I've used descriptive audio to re-"watch" my favorite movies while driving for work. It's fascinating how the descriptions work with the time constraints to get the story across.

Here's a great podcast episode about how they are made: 20,000 Hertz - Audio Descriptions

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 26 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The sound is often so fucked up. Music, explosions, guns, cars etc are so fucking loud, but conversations are very dim, as if people are almost whispering. It's often very hard to hear what people are saying, especially when eating crisps.

I always use English subs, even when watching stuff in my own language (Dutch)

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

If you have a soundbar or sound system turn the night mode or quiet mode setting on. It compresses the dynamic range of the audiotrack basically lowers the sound levels of the loud sounds

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So, the solution to completely fucked up sound is to use a device to mangle that sound back into something which isn't complete shit?
And yes, I understand it's about the director wanting the loud sounds to be loud. But, when your art direction means that a major (if not majority) of your audience is going to have to "fix" your artistic direction, your artistic direction is the problem.

p.s.: don't mean to jump down your throat, this is just one of those things that grinds my gears. Along with the "let's make everything too dark to possibly see" art direction which has become popular.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

If you have a proper surround system than usually soft dialogue isn’t as big of a problem since the voices are on the center channel and don’t share the same speaker as the music and sound effects which are on the other speakers. The problem arises when you listen to a surround mix on a stereo system or a cheap soundbar. The center and surround channels then gets down mixed into the stereo channels. Which can drown out the voices by the loud sounds since now they share the same speaker.

The real solution is adding a proper stereo mix as an option. Which used to be normal in the DVD era.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I don't have that. I'm an audiophile, I have a proper tube amp stereo sound system. I don't want to have my sound compressed and filtered.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Well that might be the problem, you are listening to a surround mix on a stereo system. The center and surround channels gets downmixed to the L-R channels which could drown out the voices since all the voices in the center channel are now on the same channel as the surround sound effects and music. Maybe add a mixer in between to boost the center channel before the down mix.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Well shit. I hate surround sound haha

But subtitles work 🤷

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago
[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 33 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
  1. There was this complete and utter hack with a couple fluke hits under his belt named George Lucas. He noticed that some theaters might not even have functioning audio sometimes, so he hired some engineers to create THX.
  2. Movie theater audio systems continued to go big blue baby boinking bonkers. Remember when the THX logo wasn't survivable by children under 7?
  3. Directors, especially the self-important "my vision must be realized" scrotes, the ones who objected to a playback speed setting on Netflix, start designing their soundtracks to take full advantage of 90.1 channel 1.21 jiggawatt sound systems as found at the local umptyplex. They can make the sound of a dental drill sound like it's in your mouth.
  4. While all of that was going on, TV technology changed significantly. We went from big boxes with CRTs and thus plenty of room for speaker cones inside, to a 2 inch thick LCD panel with down/back firing laptop speakers. Or people consume video content on laptops, tablets or phones instead of a "television."
  5. Even with the increased popularity/necessity of external soundbars and surround sound systems, a home 5.1 system still can't keep up with Dolby THX Atmos Skibidi Brushless Guarana Turbo Surround.
  6. Movie theaters have been closing down in droves.
  7. Television" the art form has converged a lot with movies. Since the 90's there's been a trend of making television shows more "cinematic," wider aspect ratios, more dramatic lighting, more dynamic camera angles, longer episodes, overall plots that you need to watch in order. So television shows fall into the same engineering traps that movies do. Mix it for the theater, even though half of your audience is going to watch this on an iPhone 12.
  8. "movies" and "tv" are now mostly consumed on devices with poor quality stereo speakers, and yet the audio was designed for million dollar cinema systems, so the dialog is completely unintelligible.
  9. "Survey reveals most people under 40 use subtitles."
[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Movie theater audio systems continued to go big blue baby boinking bonkers. Remember when the THX logo wasn’t survivable by children under 7?

Yes

There was a similar scene, I think in Rocko's Modern Life, where they went to the theater, and the THX logo blasted and then said THE AUDIENCE IS NOW DEAF.

Back in the 90's "Man that THX logo is uncomfortably loud, huh?" was comedy gold.

This kinda makes sense to me.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I turn on subtitles to subtley force my kid to read. He's got ADHD like me, but mine made me read at a super early age, while he struggles with it. To me, it's a way to expose him to words and the spelling as they come. My dad struggled with reading as well and basically just memorized most words and their pronunciation instead of actually learning to read. If that helps the kiddo, then I don't mind it, but I secretly turn it off by myself, and turn it back on when I'm done.

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

basically just memorized most words and their pronunciation instead of actually learning to read

That’s pretty much the only option you’re Anglo anyway, there are basically no letter-> sound rules that apply over a non trivial vocabulary.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's perfectly consistent if you follow the 400 normal rules and 1300 exceptions.

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The rules make sense if ya break it up into Germanic and Romantic groupings, if it's Germanic in origin the phonetic spelling probably is right (weird accent shit not withstanding, I swap O and A sometimes) while if it's Romantic in nature it's either easy to spell because it's just straight Latin or it's a pain in the ass because it's one of the French words. Tertiary lone words from other languages groups tend to be with Germanic in that it has probably had its spelling rejigged to be phonetic in English, Welsh lone words not withstanding.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

For anyone who was as curious as I was about Welsh loan words.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

See! All these dummies not holding a strong historical understanding of germanic and romantic languages. Didn't you all learn latin primary school? So silly!

[–] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Hell yeah par'nr!

[–] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 27 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Audio levels are mixed horribly and go crazy loud with music but i cant fucking hear anyone talking. It feels like around 2010 or something tv shows and movies were like "lets just forget about voices and let everyone hear explosions and shitty driving music".

Its not my ears because YouTube folks who can mix their audio properly are easy to hear. Anime is mixed well usually with voices.

Its the studios doing this for whatever reason unknown to us.

I use subtitles 100% of the time now.

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

For anything cinematic, the intent is usually to get more dynamic range. If you turn it up enough that the dialogue is audible, then the explosions will be as loud as an actual explosion. Fine in a movie theater, not so much in an apartment complex.

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[–] criticon@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mostly is because it's mixed for 5.1

The center channel takes care of most of the dialog and the rest is distributed to 4 satellite (and usually smaller) speakers but when it's down sampled to stereo everything has the same level

[–] Ashiette@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

But even with a 5.1 setup, it is seldom audible.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 10 hours ago

I recently moved my center channel speaker to above my TV and that has helped dramatically with audio clarity. No more coffee table blocking the voice channel.

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[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 1 day ago (16 children)

For fucks sake, can we just get releases that have separate audio tracks for dialogue, music, and effects that we the viewer can decide how we want to hear it?

Video games figured this out

I don't want the explosions to be so loud that it wakes my entire house.

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[–] josefo@leminal.space 8 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

I have hearing loss, and from this thread I gather most of you have it too lol. Yeah, probably sound mixing is bad, but do yourself a favor and get checked. Your life quality can really improve if you treat this condition.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 hours ago

I got my hearing tested and it's normal (for my age). I just have terrible auditory processing!

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[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago

It helps with the dialogue, but I also like it because I feel like it keeps my mind more active and involved in the story. It’s more like reading a book and watching a movie.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 72 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We use subtitles because the sound mixing is fucking terrible in most media now. It's set up for massive theatres where dialogue sounds normal and gunfire or explosions sounds realistically loud. But I'm not trying to have realistically loud explosions in my living room on my Vizio, so the volume is set accordingly, meaning you can't make out words half the time.

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[–] _AutumnMoon_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 19 hours ago

that is also the dryest popcorn I have ever seen, where is the butter?

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 230 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (70 children)

Because they insist on mixing the audio in a shitty way so unless you want to fiddle with the audio-level every 5 seconds or have your eardrums shattered by action/suspense-scenes, you can't hear dialogue and need subs to understand what the fuck is going on...

Edit: and before people start saying "5.1 in stereo is the cause!1!!1!1", no forcing stereo does absolutely nothing to alleviate this.

[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago

Also, not many of us live in single homes with basements that we can turn into a home theater like our parents did.

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