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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

Solarp8nk could be an actual thing if it was actually punk in any way. Like a critique of the greenwashing many companies and countries like to do.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, to be more serious, my main vibe from looking at solarpunk art is that the artists aren't involved in production, especially industrial production. Ultimately, I wonder how production is handled in a solarpunk society. There's essentially two ends of a spectrum: industrial production and artisan production.

Industrial production means factories, and I struggle to find any meaningful difference between a solarpunk factory vs a futuristic factory vs a cyberpunk factory. All futuristic factories converge to a design of being:

  1. Autonomous
  2. In near/complete darkness
  3. Filled with inert gas

And since a society is ultimately organized by how production is handled, then there's really not a whole lot of difference between a solarpunk society and a more generic futuristic society. Less chrome and more trees I guess? From a purely aesthetic perspective, you turn a futuristic factory into a solarpunk factory by photoshopping a bunch of trees right next to the factory and replacing a field of invasive grass with a field of native wildflowers. But the actual interior of the factory would be identical, and a faithful depiction of the interior of a solarpunk factory would be identical to a faithful depiction of the interior of a futuristic factory.

Artisan production is the other end, and that's where the fashy vibes come from, especially when artisan production is artistically extolled by artists living in a settler-colonial society where the ideal form of living is larping as a yeoman homesteading pioneer living on stolen Indigenous land. Even "communal living" doesn't cut it because artisan production can't keep up with industrial production, meaning the outputs of artisan production often goes to the immediate community and the immediate community only. And if you live within a community that lacks the means or ability to produce that particular commodity because your skin color is different or you live in an arid desert? Well, tough shit.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I gotta agree on the artisan production as idealized by people inside settler society often having fashy vibes, especially when people start talking about setting up a commune in the woods for their friends.

Just from image searching a lot of the art does seem to just be futuristic building+trees, but where are the animals? gimme a big field of bison just living their lives next to a towering hive-city without sprawling suburbs and some trees please!

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

looks at the 180+ comments from a post about how solarpunk sucks and is reactionary

Hexbear is not ready for the post about how cyberpunk sucks and is reactionary.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Yeah but the music is good

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[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Wall-E is ecofuturist, and both depicts capitalism as a social ill, and emphasizes the hard work that the humans put in to make Earth livable again post-apocalypse.

I don't have a point to make, I just like Wall-E

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[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago

It stars a little movie nerd with a decaying body

^he's^ ^just^ ^like^ ^me^ ^fr^

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 day ago

I have nothing to add, but I liked Wall-E too!

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

clueless I wonder why there's nearly 200 comments in this post

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

This thing had 3 comments when I went to bed. Did Yogthos rile up the libs again?

EDIT: Nope, just another struggle session.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's a nice change of pace from our usual AI struggle session though. :)

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 9 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

This might be the AI struggle session in disguise, because when I googled "solarpunk" to figure out which side I was gonna bat for (I already knew the genre but I wanted to make a point about what most people that are just learning about it might see) it was all AI generated. Ironically, I know you land more on the pro-AI side of things, that immediately galvanized me in the anti-solarpunk side.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 14 hours ago

ok that's pretty funny actually

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