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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wait a fucking second there, by plague they meant the literal Black Death? USA still have even this shit?

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are a couple of tens of cases of the plague every year, because rodents are the natural reservoir of the plague, and it would require giving every single rodent a dosage of antibiotics to eliminate the plague (so borderline impossible).

I think it's just Grandpa's cooking

[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago

That's not fair to our beloved grandaddy! Nurgle takes away pain and suffering with the acceptance of decay as an inevitable fact. These idiots are just a widdle scawed of the big bad neeeeeedle.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Me in 2027: Ah for the halcyon days of being able to confidently refer to any (or even all of them collectively) of the highly contagious diseases wreaking havoc in the country as "plague" without risk of causing confusion sicko-wistful

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Back in Roman times they called various diseases 'the plague' because they just had no idea what they were. This could simply be a Retvrn angle.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

RFK seems to believe in miasma theory so it's closer than you'd think

[–] SchillMenaker@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

There's absolutely no way that he thinks bad smells cause disease. That man loves him some stinky air.

[–] Lavender@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My suspicion is he avoided the doctor for long enough that his health declined past the point where antibiotics would fix it.

[–] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Avoiding the doctor is pretty much the reality for most Americans. A simple checkup with insurance can still cost hundreds of dollars, as I’m sure you know

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah, I'm reading more about it now and it looks like death is fairly preventable

northern AZ is pretty chuddified, so I'm wondering how much of a mindset like "I'm not going to no DEI doctor who will give me woke vaccines frothingfash" was a factor here

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago

Northern AZ is also very rural outside of Flagstaff (which is one of the blue cities), and Coconino County contains parts of the Navajo, Hopi, Havasupai, Hualapai, and Kaibab-Pauite reservations. There is a lot of poverty and limited access to healthcare for a lot of these communities.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With plague being a couple days late to visit the doctor is enough to be completely fucked.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Makes sense. Guy gets a "bad flu" because plague starts as pneumonia, tries to tough it out, and then craters.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Um....hmmm.....I actually also have a tendency to try and tough it out; Im thinking maybe I should be more careful about that.

[–] Lavender@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

I mean with healthcare not existing, you literally have to decide if you want to risk your life or your rent which is your life with extra steps in this hell country.

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you mean that you suspect his case of plague started as pneumonia? Because that's possible. Or do you mean that plague generally starts as pneumonia? Because that's wrong. If the disease hits your lungs you get pneumonic plague, if it hits your lymph nodes you get bubonic plague and if it starts growing in the blood you get septicemic plague. You can have overlaps and you can get only one of them.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

The article says this was pneumonic plague.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Many such cases

[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Thank you presinald trunt for bringing back age old traditions to the US! amerikkka-clap

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So how can we blame this one on the wokes

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

frothingfash Diseases is just an anagram for "DEI asses"! and that's good enough for me!

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago
[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago

Disease, equity, inclusion

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

......oh my God it is, how did you even catch that? Are you a part of the wokinati, or the freewokesons (and of course you commies would like the free stuff)?

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

I mean, come on, the "Black" Death. That sounds pretty DEI to me...

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll tell you how we should blame this on chuds: tell them this culture of Retvrn to Evropa and Rome and whatever nonsense is a return to literal continents filled with plague killed corpse piles and maybe they should Retvrn to planet earth

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Black Death was around for like...30 years. Mideval guys weren't like Monty Python depicts. They bathed and stuff. Miedeval shit is complicated but it wasnt a bunch of shit covered bog people who lived to 40 at best.

Miedeval shit is complicated but it wasnt a bunch of shit covered bog people who lived to 40 at best.

That was mostly XVII-XIX century and had more to do with urbanisation.

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it wasnt a bunch of shit covered bog people who lived to 40 at best

Admittedly I assumed the people in the middle ages were anti-bathers; I recall hearing frequently that lords at that time didn't used to bathe and there was a famous person who took pride that in his entire life he only ever bathed like....one time. Also I recall hearing the French used to perfume themselves up because they didn't bathe either and were also covered in diseases. I do admit 'shit covered bog people' was actually my initial view; especially as I kept hearing how one of the many ways the vikings differed from them as well was that the vikings bathed (as did native Americans).

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 17 hours ago

So most of that is either Victorian period guys making shit up about mideval Europe which is where a lot of modern pop culture interpretation is still largely based in or early modern period rich guys and maybe some mideval rich guys. Germ theory wasn't a thing of course but there was some long observed cause and effect in regards to being dirty as hell and disease. Cleanliness was also next to godliness so mideval guys did feel a spiritual need to bathe as well to an extent. Rich people not bathing was sort of a flex in how rich they are. The idea was they aren't out there sweating and toiling so bathing was less necessary for them. Peasants would regularly 'bathe' by just getting naked and jumping in the river. Washing clothes was a whole ordeal as was most domestic stuff which is partially why peasants seemingly had so many days off, those were days off from getting your lord the grain so you can do laundry, re-thatch the roof, animal husbandry shit, and also to tend your own damn grain that youre gonna eat.

Victorian guys who loved to slander and romanticize the middle ages simultaneously also lived in disgusting filthy conditions due to the recent forced urbanity which were way grosser than any mideval farm or even city but they were kinds hyped on themselves so they had to imagine the past as being even grosser

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

Fallout Timeline checkpoint: The arrival of the New Plague

I know it's the old plague, but still