Bojack Horseman.
He’s such a terrible person but idk i love watching him and I root for him especially later seasons.
1) Be nice and; have fun
Doxxing, trolling, sealioning, racism, and toxicity are not welcomed in AskLemmy. Remember what your mother said: if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. In addition, the site-wide Lemmy.world terms of service also apply here. Please familiarize yourself with them
2) All posts must end with a '?'
This is sort of like Jeopardy. Please phrase all post titles in the form of a proper question ending with ?
3) No spam
Please do not flood the community with nonsense. Actual suspected spammers will be banned on site. No astroturfing.
4) NSFW is okay, within reason
Just remember to tag posts with either a content warning or a [NSFW] tag. Overtly sexual posts are not allowed, please direct them to either !asklemmyafterdark@lemmy.world or !asklemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com.
NSFW comments should be restricted to posts tagged [NSFW].
5) This is not a support community.
It is not a place for 'how do I?', type questions.
If you have any questions regarding the site itself or would like to report a community, please direct them to Lemmy.world Support or email info@lemmy.world. For other questions check our partnered communities list, or use the search function.
6) No US Politics.
Please don't post about current US Politics. If you need to do this, try !politicaldiscussion@lemmy.world or !askusa@discuss.online
Reminder: The terms of service apply here too.
Logo design credit goes to: tubbadu
Bojack Horseman.
He’s such a terrible person but idk i love watching him and I root for him especially later seasons.
I'm not sure how long this will last, but I've still not forgiven Netflix for forcing the ending to be rushed. The last season should have been at least two seasons.
McNulty
Can you be a hero for not doing anything?
Assuming he didn’t do it (he didn’t), he’s taking the fall for a saint so that’s saintly on its own imo
Saint Luigi 🙏
Isn’t this just a hero?
Malcolm Reynolds
Mal is pretty darn heroic. They glossed over the space civil war so as far as we know the browncoats weren't fighting to preserve slavery. Mal's a pretty excellent moral guide for what these sovcit nerds wish they were, and enough of a moral actor to be a role model. Evenhanded and loving with subordinates (even Jayne), unrelenting in moral crusade against the government, and a preference for negotiation (even with Constance and Nishka!) but enough of a badass to get out of it (or having a loving found family who can help). He sticks his neck out to help people in need (like the Brothel), and goes along with a reversal even if it means all of their previous efforts were for nothing (my favorite episode, Ariel). A lot of the confusion is just how acidic and brooding Mal starts off, and his arc (such as we see it) is even just 'becomes less curmudgeonly and embraces this heroic side of himself)."
I think a real example in this space is Spike Spiegle from fellow late 2000s bounty hunter broke as dirt space opera, Cowboy Bebop. Spike is much more about money, revenge, and a good fight, and is very open about his nihlism and readiness to get himself killed, but somehow ends up helping a few people along the way.
A Firefly fan in the wild!!!
I feel like the overlap of Firefly fans and Lemmy is pretty gorram big.
Shiny
There's dozens of us!
Capt Tightpants
"I aim to misbehave"
I'm lost.
I'm angry.
And I'm armed.
They said anti-hero.
Shut up baby, I know it!
V from V For Vendetta
>does good things for bad reasons
>gluttony is considered by many to be bad
kirby. kirby is my favorite antihero
To be fair, after the swallowing he sometimes puke. It's not a total sin, but just a eating disorder.
After watching Andor, I guess Luthem Rael fits that title. Dude's absolutely savage. Forced to use the tools of his enemy to fight for freedom that he'll likely never experience. He sacrifices good people on order to protect the whole
Beatrix Kiddo "The Bride" from "Kill Bill".
Sooo evil, but you just have to love her.
Iirc, the original definition of an antihero didn't mean a bad guy you root for. It meant a hero in the story that didnt embody the traditional heroic traits of courage, strength, faith in God, noble morality, etc. The antihero is the hero who is not really heroic - a hero who is kind of just a normal person. An example of this being Don Quixote - a man who spent his time fighting dragons and rescuing princesses only in his imagination.
These days, almost all heros outside children's books are antiheros. Because true heros are flat and one dimensional and unrelatable and don't contribute to an engaging plot. These days, it isn't thrilling enough for us to hear how the knight slew the dragon. He must first overcome... I dunno, his childhood trauma or something.... And then he can slay the dragon!
Riddick
Leto II. Deadpool was already taken, so I went with a more controversial example.
Vegeta. Fun character.
Vegeta embodies the rage that all of us feel and has one of the best character arcs of all time IMO.
he had his entire life stolen from him by the monster that took him in, not out of pittance, but out of a sick sense of entertainment.
he then spent the next 20-ish years trying to become stronger to complete his desire for vengeance, and even then he wasn't enough.
he literally had everything stolen from him. beaten from him. was mocked relentlessly because of who and what he is. they took everything but one thing. That one thing that could never be taken from him. His pride.
I learned so much about myself as a person as I watched his character develop. I keep a figure of him on my desk to remind myself of how far I have come and to protect my pride.
he is, by far, one of the most influential characters in my entire life.
Add the fact that he becomes a decent family man and you have one heck of an arc.
There's a hilarious canon scene where Vegeta proves to be a better dad than Goku (granted that doesn't take much)
yeah...Goku really is a piece of shit dad.
Deadpool.
Everyone in the Expanse. Naomi, Drummer, Fred Johnson, Bobbie Draper, Chrisjen Avasarala, Monica... Obviously, Amos, Peaches, Miller, and even Holden.
All of them do reprehensible things. Some did them and made up for it. Some still do them to win.
I've got to go with a classic in Tony Soprano. He's a real piece of shit, and yet I can't look away.
Didn't see him posted yet, Walter Joseph Kovacs aka Rorschach.
The one who hates immigrants, gays, and liberals? Might want to take a little closer look at your favorite character.
The question was favorite antihero.
An antihero (sometimes spelled as anti-hero or two words anti hero) or anti-heroine is a character in a narrative (in literature, film, TV, etc.) who may lack some conventional heroic qualities and attributes, such as idealism and morality. Although antiheroes may sometimes perform actions that most of the audience considers morally correct, their reasons for doing so may not align with the audience's morality.
Perhaps a post titled "Who is your favorite antihero?" Isn't the best place for you if you're just looking for reasons to be offended.
Captain James Flint from Black Sails