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Am I the only one getting agitated by the word AI (Artificial Intelligence)?

Real AI does not exist yet,
atm we only have LLMs (Large Language Models),
which do not think on their own,
but pass turing tests
(fool humans into thinking that they can think).

Imo AI is just a marketing buzzword,
created by rich capitalistic a-holes,
who already invested in LLM stocks,
and now are looking for a profit.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I think we’ll be so desensitized by the term “A.I.”, that when it actually does happen we won’t realize what’s happened until after the fact. It’ll happen so gradually that we’ll just be like, “Wait… I think it’s actually thinking real thoughts.”

[–] suodrazah@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I call it a probability box.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 9 points 9 months ago

Businesses always do this. AI is popular? Insert that word into every page of the deck. It sucks.

[–] jackalope@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

"real ai" isn't a coherent concept.

Turing test isn't a literal test. It's a rhetorical concept that turing used to underline his logical positivist approach to things like intelligence, consciousness etc.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago

AI experts in interviews will tell you that like 99% of phrasing around AI used by people is fundamentally incorrect, and that management of corporations are the worst about it.

[–] Kedly@lemm.ee 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

People keep saying this, but AI has been used for subroutines nowhere near actual artificial intelligence since at LEAST as long as video games have existed

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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

LOL, ask anyone in IT marketing how they feel about AI.

[–] callcc@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Don't worry, the hype will die sooner than later, just like with cryptocurrencies. What will remain are the power and resource hungry statistical models doing nice work in some specific domains, some long faces and some people having made a bunch of money from it. But yeah, the term also makes me angry, that's why I started referring to them as statistical models.

Am I the only one seeing a parallel between the spectrum planned <-> "free"-market economy and classical algorithm <-> statistical model/ML? It seems that some people prefer to have some magic invisible handle their problems instead of doing the tough work. I'm not saying that there is not space for both but we seem to be leaning on the magic side a bit too much lately.

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Just wait for "quantum ai"

[–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Shit. Don’t give them ideas

[–] slurp@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've ranted about this to several people too. Intelligence is hard to define and trying to define it has a horrible history linked to eugenics. That said, I feel like a minimum definition is that it has the capacity to understand the meaning and/or impact of what it is saying and/or doing, which current "AI" is so far from doing.

[–] Markimus@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Yep, it says things though has no understanding of what it is saying: much like strolling through a pet shop, passing the parrot enclosure, and hearing and recoiling at the little kid swear words it cheeps out.

[–] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (10 children)

I saw a streamer call a procedurally generated level "ai generated" and I wanted to pull my hair out

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[–] alien@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It really depends on how you define the term. In the tech world AI is used as a general term to describe many sorts of generative and predictive models. At one point in time you could've called a machine that can solve arithmetic problems "AI" and now here we are, Feels like the goalpost gets moved further every time we get close so I guess we'll never have "true" AI?

So, the point is, what is AI for you?

[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Oaksey@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

The term “Fuzzy logic” has apparently been around since 1965, can’t keep calling it that.. not that all AI falls under that but a lot of what gets marketed as that would.

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You are not. The word predictor hype is real

[–] KeefChief13@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Get the new samsung blah blah with the new galaxy AI!!!. ENOUGH.

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[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 9 months ago

Yes, AI term is used for marketing, though it didn't start with LLMs, a couple of years before, any ML algorithm was called AI together with the trendy data scientist job.

However, I do think LLMs are very useful, just try them for your daily tasks, you'll see. I'm pretty sure they will become as common as a web search in the future.

Also, how can you tell that the human brain is not mostly a very powerful LLM hosting machine?

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