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[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Don’t give 2 week notices. The only incentive you have is if you are leaving on good terms you can use them as a reference or maybe come back if the circumstances work.

The downsides far outweigh the benefits. They could terminate you, cut your hours, get mad that you’re quitting and give you bad references.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think is different in different markets, in my actual job, during the interview I said that I would need a month I'm advance to give to my old boss, to close projects and prepare my junior for my leave. After being accepted my new boss told me that this stipulation weighted a lot in the decision to hired me, because they knew I would do the same. I'm an actuarie, our jobs are kinda complex, and someone leaving the company without any notice can complicate everything a lot.

[–] cmfhsu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I was pretty high up in Actuarial at a fortune 500 insurance company. At my old company, if you went to a competitor, your account was shut off that day and none of your unused time off was paid out.

You don't owe your company anything they won't reciprocate. The company will continue to operate no matter who leaves under whatever circumstances - don't fuck yourself for a faceless corporation.

If you know your manager is very employee-centric and you have a great relationship, maybe approach it with caution, but otherwise, your interests should always come first.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 23 hours ago

This is what I mean, in Brazil if they do that they have to pay a lot of money, I guess in other parts of the world with basic workers law works like that.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is the way to do it - also, it's nice to have some vacation stocked away in case they do get mad and fire you before the end of the 2 weeks. If you don't get fired, it's like getting a bonus check once you start your new job.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 1 day ago

Getting fire is the best case, almost everywhere but in the US. In Brazil every month the employer have to deposit 8% of your salary in a savings account that pays 3% interest rates annually. If you are fired without legitimate cause, they have to pay 45% of the value of that account to you, and you are free to liquidate that account. Government bonds today are paying way eay more, so you can just buy bonds and get a 400% value on the long term.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I don't get it. If you get a notice, they should. We have labour laws requiring both the company and you to give notice, 3 months. That's for anyone that hires someone, but exempt for what's called a "temporary hire", like interns and such. If you have a temporary hire for more than one year it's automatically considered a "permanent hire". It means that whenever a company uses consultants or practice workers the risk goes both ways, and most normal workers get economic security. (Perhaps it only works well because other labour laws though, such as rights to be sick, have kids, etc)

Labour laws should be beneficial for workers, and if they aren't, the giant hyper capitalist megacorps you foster with that approach aren't worth any protection at all since they are a burden on the planet and society, not a benefit.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You don't typically get a notice.

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[–] MeThisGuy@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fuck the reference.. tell your new boss your current job doesn't know you're job hunting and thus can't list them as a reference.. problem solved!

[–] aramova@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

Agree but with caution, I know a couple hiring managers who pull the "oh if they'll job hunt on their current one they will do it to us" kinda clingy relationship shit.

Bitch, it's a job, we're not friends. HR isn't there to help you, your manager isn't there to help you, and in all except the rarest cases the founder or manager doesn't give a shit about you.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I work in a professional environment where it's not unusual to give months notice because you appreciate the people you work with and don't want to leave them hanging.

in this same environment I have witnessed people getting fired on the spot with zero notice, zero reasons, zero sympathy. I have also seen people give a month notice only for mgmt and HR to fire them on the spot and then tell their team the person quit.

take my advice, don't give a two weeks notice for your employer. give it to your trusted colleagues and quit on the spot for your employer.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's nothing more satisfying than quitting in person so you can look your boss in the eye and tell him he is a piece of shit, making them so mad they threaten to call the cops on you for trespassing as you are literally walking out the door lmao.

I don't mind giving a 2 week notice normally, but at this particular job one of my coworkers put her notice in and they fired her that day. They immediately lost their 2 week notice privileges from me with that slick move.

I love how companies expect you to give them 2 week notices, but how many of them give you any notice before laying you off or firing you? None- that's how many. They literally value their own profits over human beings, fuck them.

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

The whole point of my submission was too many times you try to do the right thing but the clown who is your boss simply terminates you immediately. You don't get to work the 2 weeks. You don't get paid. And you are screwed for 2 weeks until you start your next job

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It should just be standard to eliminate the 2 weeks bullshit. Telling someone they will be fired in 2 weeks is not a smart move. They could do all kinds of damage to the business with their access. IT is a great example.

We just need to normalize quitting with no notice. Companies still survive with employees going on 1-2 week vacations. They will be fine with no 2 week notice bullshit.

Unless it's in your contract, of course.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

I think this is smart, businesses should always strive to lower their employee-hit-by-a-bus factor as much as possible instead of relying on a social nicety. I think that would also reduce a lot of the pressure to not call out sick or take PTO.

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[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I’ve spent the last year trying to make it work with one of my guys.

At first, I told him the rest of the team was having trouble connecting with him. He would wander off without telling anyone where he was going or what he was doing, which gave the impression that he wasn’t working. I explained that optics matter, because we’re all in this together. If we can’t count on each other, it makes it harder for everyone. He appreciated that conversation, but things didn’t improve.

He continued to show up late or call in sick, often on days when he knew we’d be busiest. I talked to him again about reliability—how it's the most basic form of respect. Not just for your workplace, but for yourself. When you say you're going to do something or be somewhere, it’s vital that your word means something. If you can’t be counted on, how can anyone rely on you?

I didn’t just tell him this. I lived it. I showed him with kindness and consistency how important those basic values are.

Last week was the busiest week our team has ever faced. It was also one of the most critical in terms of proving what we could do together. I prepped the team ahead of time and told them how proud I was to step up to the challenge with them.

On the first of the two most important days, he was late. The first 15 minutes were the most crucial of the entire day, and he missed half of them. I wasn’t angry. I handled it myself. But when he arrived, I told him how stressful that time was for me, and I reminded him again how important these two days were. He said he understood. He said he was sorry.

The next morning, I was 15 minutes into busting my ass alone. I texted him: Where are you? Nothing. Radio silence. No reply that day. Not a single call or message.

The next day, he told me he was sick and had a doctor’s note. The note was timestamped 3:45 p.m., and it said he was cleared to return to work that day.

I just stared at it for a moment. I didn’t get angry. I didn’t yell. I just said, “Okay,” and continued working. We worked in silence for most of the day.

Later, he said casually, “I heard you were upset yesterday morning.”

I replied calmly, “I was. Yes. It was stressful.”

He shrugged and said, “Sorry about that.”

I didn’t respond. I just kept working. Then, just before I left, I turned to him and said this in a calm but measured tone:

“Let me clarify something. Yesterday, I was upset because it was stressful. I’m not upset today. I’m disappointed today. I wanted to be able to say to the rest of the team that I could rely on you when it mattered most. But I can’t say that. I can’t defend you to the team when they feel like you leave them to figure it out on their own, because you left me when I told you I needed you the most. I’m not upset. I’m deeply disappointed.”

He tried to defend himself with the doctor’s note, but I raised my hand to stop him. He waited for me to say something else, but I didn’t. I let the silence speak, then walked out.

I’m sharing this because I saw this meme and it made me feel sad and reflect. I know it may be counter to the fun of the meme, but I thought the point was worth sharing.

Sometimes, jobs are crappy. Sometimes you work for people who don’t care but still expect you to. In those cases, I understand the temptation to stop caring or to burn bridges that don’t seem worth crossing.

But here’s my advice:

Respect—not because others have earned it, but because you are worth giving it to.

Hold yourself to a higher standard, not for them, but for you. Elevate yourself because it's worth doing. Be better to yourself.

And when others who also respect themselves find you, they’ll recognize that quality in you. That’s when you find people worth teaming up with. That’s how you build something greater, something that’s not just productive, but meaningful and fun.

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Whenever I have an employee that I really need to get rid of, I call them in and say.... "We need to formulate an exit strategy for you". I leave it up to them. Want to resign today or in 2 weeks. Accepting your fate gains you a good recommendation for future employment. (Hoping that they will get a job with a competitor and continue to be inept)

[–] CandleTiger@programming.dev 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do your guys benefit from all that team building? Or do they just get the same minimum wage no matter what while all the benefits of team efficiency go to the owner?

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[–] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 5 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I really appreciate where you're coming from, does the company respect him? It's clear you do, but if a person's time is not being respected through compensation then this might be an unrealistic expectation. Respect is a two way street.

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[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah that's a good way to handle that sort of thing, and you did the right thing. However, and this is just a personal thing, and may not be applicable to your situation:

I have had adhd my entire life and worked around it. It has its problems with changing activity, and many people have this symptom with it. When I got medication and the problem was mitigated, I realised that my entire life I heard and was deeply ashamed of me not respecting others because of my chronic lateness. Now that I understand I wasn't physically able, I can see that all the pain from hearing that I'm not respectful, when I'm truly sincerely am, did not help. The issue was never respect, it was a clinical defect in my frontal lobe. In my country we have "work therapists" they're not for work, they're for practically finding out if you have problems with productivity (even home stuff). One of these helped me realise and I was "cured". I really thought I just suck. And nothing I did could fix it, and I would be truthful when I told others I get it and want to improve. And I was sincere in trying everything. I empathise with that guy probably because I was like that and I know I always held my job and coworkers high in regard and did my absolute best, but it came out as being disrespectful and disingenuous. Just needed to get that off my chest, cheers!

[–] Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

What you shared lands really close to home for me. I’m right there with you. My ADHD is the “leave‑your‑keys‑in‑the‑fridge, miss‑the‑turn‑you‑take‑every‑day” flavor, and when you layer in a hefty dose of imposter syndrome, it can feel like the whole world sees “irresponsible” when I’m just wrestling with my own wiring.

Over the years I’ve had to build some pretty extreme guardrails to keep myself on track:

  • The 15‑minute rule. I aim to arrive everywhere a quarter hour early. It buys me a buffer for the inevitable “where did I put my badge?” scramble and lets me start calm.

  • Alarm orchestras. My phone is a symphony of labeled reminders: “Leave NOW,” “Send daily status,” “Prep tomorrow’s kit.” If it dings, I do the thing right then (no bargaining, no “I’ll remember in five”). Future‑me is not a reliable assistant.

  • Immediate action. If a task pops into my head and will take less than two minutes, I do it on the spot. That tiny rule has saved me from a mountain of forgotten follow‑ups.

  • Radical transparency. This is my most important rule for myself. I tell my team straight up: “ADHD is my software; here’s how I patch the bugs. If you spot a glitch, flag me.” People are surprisingly supportive when they understand the why so I tell everyone.

None of these tricks erase my problems, but they translate good intentions into results the team can feel. And every time a coworker says, “I know I can count on you,” even when I am too harsh in judging myself.

Your story is a powerful reminder that what looks like disrespect can be a neurological hurdle. I hope anyone reading our thread pauses before labeling someone lazy or careless. Sometimes the most respectful thing we can do for ourselves and for each other is to seek understanding, build systems that work for our brains, and keep rooting for one another’s progress.

Thanks again for sharing. You’re not alone, and the fact that you care this much tells me you’re exactly the kind of teammate people want in their corner.

[–] crazyhotpasta@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My asshole boss got what he asked for. He was hired in 2023, +15workers quit during his first year in charge, and by surprise 2024 was record breaking bad year for the company. I guess things can happen when you don't respect the ones bringing in the revenue.

[–] Mickey7@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

this is the old baseball analogy. Fire all the players or fire the manager. If everyone quits it's not the players but an asshole manager

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

My last job didn't even get notice, I just didn't keep showing up and deleted everyone's number from my phone

They were probably super mad that I didn't open the store, but I literally do not care even slightly

[–] atlien51@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

Very mixed comments section lol

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 59 points 2 days ago

They wouldn't have given him 2 weeks if he was fired.

Fuck them

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 91 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Two weeks is bullshit. Not a law nor rule.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmings.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had a job I loved, although it was owned by a complete asshole. I got a new job, at nearly double the pay. I agreed to give 2 weeks notice, even though it was going to cost me a lot of money, which I needed (this was my first good paying job, and I was broke).

Rather than understand that I was doing him a favor, my asshole boss decided to torture me for my final two weeks. I put up with it for a week, then told him I was done on Friday. I was essentially paying out of my pocket to give him 2 weeks, but I wasn't going to pay him to abuse me, so I just left him standing there with his mouth agape.

I took the weekend off, and started my cool new new job on Monday (and it was a cool job, one of the best I've ever had).

[–] frezik@midwest.social 8 points 1 day ago

It's very satisfying when someone who thinks they have all the power suddenly realizes they don't.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 21 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Two weeks is good practice especially as you move into more professional roles. Depending on the role additional notice might be preferred or even required since some roles in some businesses are critical enough to potentially impact business continuity if you leave unexpectedly

For a shitty retail job though? Give a few days notice so the schedule can be updated and leave it at that, barring other obligations

[–] Carrot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In a lot of places in the US, notice is never legally required. You're allowed to leave at any time, regardless of position. Would it screw over the company? Yes. Is it unprofessional? Yes. But you have zero obligation to give notice.

I work a high-paying job in tech with plenty of responsibility, but due to how upper management completely screws me, I will likely be leaving with same-day notice. If the company wants respect, they must first give respect.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It's not your job to keep your morale high enough to not bail

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[–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 19 points 2 days ago

My last job was retail, worked there is different areas for 13 years. Took some pride in outlasting a bunch of shitty managers that kept trying to do anything they could to get me fired or to quit, never knew why, but they were never able to fire me, so I can only assume they were trying to cut down on full-time positions.

Ended needing to quit because I couldn't find a new place to live in my area after my previous landlord decided to stop renting the place. Gave them 2 weeks notice and they started treating me even shittier, so I bailed on the day we were supposed to do inventory. Kinda fucked them over, but I didn't give a shit anymore. I'm never going to work for them again anyway, even if I kept that door open.

[–] Ging@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

My 20 years of mgmt exp would like to greatly thank you for the text OP Leaving with a reason puts you above 60% of all the other ppl that just stopped coming in altogether lol

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