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[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Apple is such a piece of shit company.

[–] altkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Why take sides if both are shit. Apple with their stupidly controlled walled garden VS Epic thinking they can buy their way into infinite reach everywhere. I'm rather pleased they didn't agree with each other, because their cooperation seems even worse than them acting as separate entities.

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In a fight between Apple and Epic, I'm rooting for the fight

[–] pory@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I'd take an Apple loss over an Epic one any day here. Apple's walled garden philosophy has permanently damaged the tech literacy of an entire generation, and the fact that ~half of all people that want to use a smartphone to do things simply can't just install a FOSS application downloaded from Github to do the thing is an atrocity. Apple getting away with it also emboldens Google to make their phones/tablets into "gadgets" instead of "computers" with stuff like file permissions policies (that became so restrictive that the devs for Syncthing simply gave up on Android as a platform).

Meanwhile, Epic's greatest evil that affects me is that I don't play some video games because they're exclusive to Epic's store, and also some video games are worse because it "just makes too much financial sense" for AAA devs to release UE5 slop. Operating systems and programs are more important than video games, and video games as a medium are more restricted by stuff like what Apple's doing than what the AAA devs do to generate shareholder value.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Both are scummy, but in this specific circumstance Epic is in the right. Apple's anti-competitive, monopolistic trust needs to be broken.

[–] nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 weeks ago

I managed to never drop a penny on Epic. The game launcher relaunch with all the propoganda put me in a state of "voting with my dollar" where I decided I'd give it a year or two before I tried out their storefront. Then when they decided to sick all the fortnite kids on Apple in this pathetic attempt to get attention on their case, I was like nope never buying a thing. Apple of course, can also eat my ass

[–] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, so Apple is eager for another demand, huh

[–] YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Delaying the review process is just petty, but lawsuits are only profitable when you win, so Apple denying the app would mean Epic wanting another lawsuit.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Do you think a court could force Apple to allow any and all software in the App Store? In other words, it’s not Apple’s decision who they do business with?

[–] YourAvgMortal@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

I doubt it. They could expand the list of allowed content, but Apple has a right (and responsibility) to moderate the content on their platform

[–] brenstar@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Could lead to allowing alternative app repositories outside of just the App Store to keep Apple from gate keeping

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Give them a real, damaging fine that makes them think twice about doing something like that ever again.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 10 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly, I maintain the ancient line of if you're playing games on Apple you're doing it wrong. Apple is not a gaming platform. That said, Fortnite sucks so meh.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"App Review shouldn't be weaponised by senior management as a tool to delay or obstruct competition, due process, or free speech."

Apple has no obligation to be fair to competition or uphold freedom of speech. Due process is completely irrelevant.

Tim Sweeney is an honest-to-goodness piece of shit.

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 2 weeks ago

They actually do have an obligation to be fair to competitors. It's in the US laws, and was a big part of the lawsuit. Until sideloading is freely available on all supported device models, they don't have a leg to stand on when called out for anticompetitive practices.