Build more housing.
this post was submitted on 07 Mar 2025
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No one is forcing you to raise your prices you cunt.
Not necessarily true. There are powerful cultural forces at play that they're not willing to acknowledge, yet alone overcome.
We're kind of in the same boat. We think that if we have more, then we deserve more before those who have less. That's just what these people are doing, only they're doing it way better than us.
no, and they're eager to, but I think if they ever tried to not, things would go badly. that's bad for the market and drives down everyone elses profits. there would be a lot of solidarity against them by the class of people that own the police.
"Everyone elses profits" means other landlords and property owners, not people who plan on living in their home.
Why does being a landlord need to be profitable? Why does being privlaged enough to own a human right come with the right to free money?
because capitalism needs to function like cancer. shit's built on old imperialist logics, where you must always be claiming more. red queen's race bullshit. or cancer; pick your metaphor.
it must be profitable because while productivity increases, due to imperial conquest and advancing technology, the profits of the owning classes (remember; this is the literal definition of capitalism-value being produced by owners rather than workers. yes it's insane, they are insane, this system is insane.) must also increase.
the fact the working class have no more to squeeze from just means we get closer and closer to slaves, which is maybe intentional, maybe just a cool bonus for them.
there's a cool poem that explains it. check out part 2 https://poets.org/poem/howl-parts-i-ii
Abolish Capitalism When?
The core problem is capitalism, landlording is merely a symptom of capitalism.
capitalism is the idea that value comes from ownership, rather than labor. landlording is just the purest expression of capitalism.
That's not really true, per Smithian capitalism but Smith also called landlords parasites so
uh huh. I think the value of stuff should go to the people who made it, who can, individually or as (a) group(s) maintain their own fucking tools. or towards a broader project of building a society. I don't think concentrating wealth or some edgelord bullshit about greed being good are sustainable healthy or sane ways to structure distribution of resources in a society.
The core problem is consumerism. The idea that if you have more, then you should get more and spend more while complaining you don't have enough.
This.
"It's the market" is another way of saying "because I can".
They don't have to raise the rent to match the market, the market is simply a signal to them that if they lost you by raising the rent, they could potentially replace you for the same or higher rent.
They could ignore that and leave your rent alone. They don't. It's a choice.
I wish something could be done about this.
If only a hero could rise up..
I mean, every year my rent increases and my pay doesn’t (not every year). So every year I have less to spend each month.
The thing that pisses me off is that I’m not Asking to be able to afford a house. I already gave up on that a long time ago. I’m only asking to be able to stay at a place that I’ve been living in for 10 years. And by the way, moving is also super expensive. On top of that, let’s say I did move to a place where the rent is cheaper initially, the rent is gonna be increasing every year there too.
I’m just trying to live a stable, modest life without having a panic attack every time I see her, no tape to my door (which usually signifies a rent increase notification).
I really wish something could be done about this.
The thing that pisses me off is that I’m not Asking to be able to afford a house. I already gave up on that a long time ago.
Sigh. This is part of the problem. We need to value ownership more than renting.
I can’t afford a down payment. You can’t buy a decent house in Cali for less than a mil. I get it. Paying rent sucks (with the advantage of not having to pay your repairs). But I can’t afford a house at this point. Just can’t afford to save enough money. So although I know it’s more optimal, I’m okay with paying rent in the current market. I just can’t deal with the constant increases.
I think you get my point though. Paying rent is not optimal, but a person with a decent job should be able to afford it. While I don’t disagree with what you’re trying to say, I don’t think it’s hard to understand what I’m getting at either.
I’m fully with you. I just want to have a roof over my head, have some time for hobbies, and be able to afford cheese at the supermarket. Alas, apparently we’re asking for too much! How very selfish of us.
I would also like to add that I earn above a minimum wage. It’s by no means a stellar income, but it’s decent. On top of that, live with my mom, so we split the rent! And somehow I’m here stressing over whether I’ll be able to afford my place of residence a few years from now. This is not okay. I really want there to be some change, but I don’t know what can be done.
Would you be willing to do it in a town of 3,000 people?
If you have to move to bumfuck nowhere to afford food and housing, the system isn’t working
Have you heard of supply and demand?
This is where your entitlement kicks in. You think that you should magically get access to high-value, low-supply properties before the people living in the areas you deem "not good enough" for you. You already have more than the people living in these areas, yet you think you deserve even more before them.
Greed. Entitlement. Consumerism. Name three bigger pillars of the modern liberal. (and don't say empathy, you people care more about your money and social status than actually helping others.)
And you're going to get mad at anyone who calls it out.
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You want to Luigi the Landlords?
Well it depends.
Those who own entire apartment buildings... meh okay sure, whatever dude 🤷♂️
The individual landlords who grew up in third world countries who have like 2 properties to fund their retirement because
checks news
the politicians (trump, musk) are actively trying to cut social security? Maybe hold off your trigger.
If you added up all the bad things "Landlords" have done, its still not as bad as the CEO of the Health Insurance Company who've done the least denials, much less than Brian Thompson.
To re-iterate, the "least evil" health insurance company is still 100x worse than all landlords combined.
If you want to make a real difference, start from the top.
- This was a silly joke
- WhyNotBoth.jpg
- Imo providing high density housing is less evil than leaching off people to fund your retirement, building for building.
I keep telling my friends rent is going up every 2 years.
Looks like it's about that time.
Lol my landlord literally told me that
Have you ever, in your life, received a rent decrease because they were matching the economic conditions...?
The only way I got that to happen is by putting in my two-month notice and then signing up for the exact same unit when they listed it. Didn't even have to moveout and they ended up charging us the lower rate for the two weeks between our current lease ending and the new one starting.
Big brain
Were you pretty sure the price would go down, or did you just roll the dice? I've watched prices at the places I've lived, and they only ever seem to go up. As in, I'm paying $1600, about to get raised to $1800, and the unit next door is listed for $1900. But one place used RealPage, and I would bet the other one used something like that too.
They had already went down by $400 for other units at the same apartment on the same floor. This was 2020, so covid lowered a lot of prices
Housing price didn't ever go down in most cases because of hoarding, there's no way leeches will ever decrease the rent.
They actively colluded through price-fixing software, and very little is done about it.
Lina Khans FTC sued them, but you can bet that will be quietly dropped soon.
Wait? There's NZ memes /community here?
Also peak meme!
I was about to say, that landlord looks super familiar
So odd seeing 'the human thumb' here. NZ is an embarrassment and this twat is NOT helping
Look, what I’d say to you is, that we are laser focussed on delivering outcomes that synergise with our plan to get on with undoing the housing crisis the Labour created.
Some townships and counties have strict regulations and housing authorities which make coops and communal housing difficult, rarely intentionally but often as a result of requiring liability and responsibility for repairs and outcomes.
That said, there is a big push in a lot of cities such as Denver which is allowing more options.
One thing to be wary about is that depending on the structure of the commune/cooperative it might be indistinguishable from an HOA or a Condo.
To the occupant, "Land Contracts" are probably the most rent-like alternatives to actual rent.
I would draw a big target on institutional investors, by jacking property taxes through the roof, while issuing "homestead" exemptions to owner occupants. As soon as we do that, every landlord (who doesn't live on the property) is going to get hit with a massive tax bill...
OR
... they are going to find some way to make their "tenant" qualify as the "owner".
Here's where "Land Contracts" come in. These are a form of seller financing. They are recorded by the county, much like a deed. The "buyer" is considered the owner.
With a land contract, you pay a fixed monthly payment, much like a mortgage. That payment normally doesn't change for the life of the contract: You aren't going to face a steep rent hike every year.
For the first three years, you are free to walk away from the property, just like leaving a rental. Ownership simply reverts to the seller.
After three years, your previous payments are considered the "down payment" on the property. The contract converts to a traditional mortgage. You continue to make the same payments, but now, you have equity in the home.
So, you can get the short-term flexibility of renting, but if you realize you've settled down, you're already well on your way to ownership.
Landlords get a way to claim that the property is occupied by the "owner", and avoid the massive tax hike.
Adopting this, the only properties that will remain "for rent" will be the spare units in duplexes, triplexes, and quadplexes, where the landlord occupies one of the units.
Land Contracts and Contracts for Deed aren't considered mortgages so they lack tax incentives as well as legal protections for buyers and sellers, but yes I do agree that a long term contract beats a monthly rental agreement in terms of locking in a rate.
Sometimes you can get trapped in a contract that would disqualify all your payments up to that point if it doesn't have terms about cashing in your equity unless you pay the full amount due via selling to a third party or getting a bank loan with which you can repay via renting or selling your property like some sort of sick landlord carousel.
I definitely don't know if I would "recommend" this route for people who aren't well-learned in matters of real estate, if they do go this route then I absolutely insist they have a trustworthy attorney act as intermediary for the transaction.
Thank you for expanding this discussion.