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[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard of. I'm not buying any keyboard or laptop that has this key. There's enough Linux-first vendors these days that it's easy to avoid (Framework, System76, Tuxedo, etc). It's time to be done with Lenovo and Dell.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the "linux-first" vendors do not offer better deals than their competition.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

It depends on how and what you're measuring. A lot of Linux first, like system 76 and purism, do so e serious work on the firmware and boot systems of their systems. Which for some is a huge value add compared.

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[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Do people actually want this?

Like, I know the megacorps that control our lives do (since it's a cheap way of adding value to their products), but what about actual users? I think many see it as a novelty and a toy rather than a productivity tool. Especially when public awareness of "hallucinations" and the plight faced by artists rises.

Kinda feels like the whole "voice controlled assistants" bubble that happened a while ago. Sure they are relatively commonplace nowadays, but nowhere near as universal as people thought they would be.

[–] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Do people actually want this?

Nope. Just like those stupid hard coded buttons on my Roku remote that I have never used.

[–] EvilMonkeySlayer@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I think it's those stupid hard coded buttons on my remote that I accidentally press every so often then have to repeatedly try and back/exit out of the stupid thing it launched that I cannot remove/uninstall from my tv.

[–] OddFed@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

And it just needs to load a hasty scribbled overloaded UI that takes forever to load with no content because you don't have an account and/or are not connected to wifi.

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you can figure out how to get the remote open, you'll probably find that the buttons are all part of the same flexible rubbery insert (unless it's 10+ years old). Put a little tape on the bottoms of the ones causing you problems. The insulation should keep them from working, and it's 100% reversible if you ever do find a use for them.

If it's one of the older, more expensive remotes with individual switches, then, yeah, pliers and superglue. 😅

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Super glue, or pliers and super glue.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I want a voice controlled assistant that runs locally and is fully FOSS and I can just run on my bog standard linux PC, hardware minimum requirements nonwithstanding

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Mycroft was the best bet for this before now being continued by open voice OS.

[–] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

All I want is a real life iteration of J.A.R.V.I.S. and several billion dollars so I can blurt out cool ideas and have them rendered and built in a couple hours.

I'll be good I promise.

[–] coolin@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Current LLMs are manifestly different from Cortana (🤢) because they are actually somewhat intelligent. Microsoft's copilot can do web search and perform basic tasks on the computer, and because of their exclusive contract with OpenAI they're gonna have access to more advanced versions of GPT which will be able to do more high level control and automation on the desktop. It will 100% be useful for users to have this available, and I expect even Linux desktops will eventually add local LLM support (once consumer compute and the tech matures). It is not just glorified auto complete, it is actually fairly correlated with outputs of real human language cognition.

The main issue for me is that they get all the data you input and mine it for better models without your explicit consent. This isn't an area where open source can catch up without significant capital in favor of it, so we have to hope Meta, Mistral and government funded projects give us what we need to have a competitor.

[–] savvywolf@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Sure, all that may be true but it doesn't answer my original concern: Is this something that people want as a core feature of their OS? My comments weren't that "oh, this is only as technically sophisticated as voice assistants", it was more "voice assistants never really took off as much as people thought they would". I may be cynical and grumpy, but to me it feels like these companies are failing to read the market.

I'm reminded of a presentation that I saw where they were showing off fancy AI technology. Basically, if you were in a call 1 to 1 call with someone and had to leave to answer the doorbell or something, the other person could keep speaking and an AI would summarise what they said when they got back.

It felt so out of touch with what people would actually want to do in that situation.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago

I hope the LLM bubble pops this year. The degree of overinvestment by megacorps is staggering.

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Another key to bind to something else? Hell yeah

[–] humanplayer2@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope, just a new logo on an existing key.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago
[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Not a single soul wants this. They just want to use every foul trick to get you to use copilot (by accident even) just like they do with bing and their other garbage.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Really milking that fad before they inevitably push anything useful behind a monthly paywall.

[–] init@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

As long as the ability to manually turn off secureboot and remove the OS isn't locked behind a subscription...

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I am getting flashbacks to the multimedia keyboards on yesteryear:

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Multimedia_keyboard

Thanks MS, but no thanks, I don't need it.

[–] pipows@lemmy.today 2 points 2 years ago

I love these, it has actual useful keys

[–] NOOBMASTER@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

yeah, the media controls are actually useful.

[–] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Can't help but think about how Facebook inc rebranded itself to Meta to chase/promote the metaverse fad.

[–] risencode@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

That's funny, because getting an ad for Copilot inside my startmenu was actually what made me go back to Linux after 10 years.

This tracks.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Rebranded Cortana?

Destined to fail.

[–] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

So you can pressed accidentally activating the fucking AI and make the numbers go up so Microsoft can then go and say to investors look millions are using my AI. So annoying.

[–] lvxferre@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh "great", more crap between Ctrl and Alt.

[Grumpy grandpa] In my times, the space row only had five keys! And we did more than those youngsters do with eight, now nine keys!

[–] ipsirc@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

In my time it was also nine. Back to the roots. ;->

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-cadet_keyboard

[–] Stillhart@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is Clippy v2.0 and I'm sure it will be just as helpful.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

They've learned from their mistakes, and concluded that Clippy failed because there was no Clippy key.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

Is copilot another windows app I'll need to uninstall? Thanks for the heads up!

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can they just make the copilot shortcut on my taskbar permanently fuck off? It appears erratically and I don't seem to be able to get rid of it when it's there.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why? Win+C launches Copilot already, if you want to use it. It's simple enough currently, why change it? This will just make everything worse.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] aksdb@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago

Awesome Keyboard with AI Support *

* On supported Operating Systems **

** With separate subscription.

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