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[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 7 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

A million seconds is 11.5 days. A billion seconds is 31.7 years.

Just a good way to ground an unimaginable number in something more familiar and drive home how ridiculous having a billion dollars is. I hear we're on track for our first batch of trillionaires this decade.

A trillion seconds is 31,688 years.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 25 minutes ago

Yes there is Luigi showed us the way.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, that includes Gabe Newell and the Costco guy.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 29 minutes ago

I mean dont you dare generalize a group of people unless they're people the echo chamber agrees not to like.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Gabe proves there are less-bad billionaires though

[–] nxn@biglemmowski.win 1 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago) (1 children)

Eh, I feel like everyone in the billionaire club is playing a slow game of poker trying to get the first "trillionaire" title. I'm expecting that when Gabe shows his hand it will be revealed that his fleet of yachts is also equipped with luxuries such as nuclear armaments.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

Gabe's net worth hasn't increased as far as I'm concerned. I think the bad billionaires would typically be those who obsess with growing their net worth assets.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 116 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Any individual that wants to horde so much money and wealth that could satisfy the lives of millions of people is not a good person.

It's like having a million sandwiches and thousands of hungry people around you .... but you'd rather keep all your sandwiches and screw everyone else, even though you will never be able to physically eat all the sandwiches you have in a lifetime.

Being a billionaire is not a sign of intelligence, it's a mental disorder and a person who lacks human empathy.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 42 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Modern age dragons, sitting on their hoards while occasionally burning a peasant village to keep those dirty plebs in line.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Well, you know what to do with dragons

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Will someone stop this man from yelling "dragon"?

https://youtu.be/ZmJybbWkinc

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Sir/ma'am/other, you are on the internet. There are many responses to that.

[–] Plagiatus@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

Donkey_from_shrek.gif

[–] aaaa@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

There are many responses. Not all of them are right

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

No, they are right.

All the many responses.

Just not right -in this circumstance-

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

If a little old lady hoards 20 cats we call her crazy .... a man hoards $400 billion dollars and we call them a genius

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

George Soros?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

"As of October 2023, he had a net worth of US$6.7 billion,[9][10] having donated more than $32 billion to the Open Society Foundations,[11] of which $15 billion has already been distributed, representing 64% of his original fortune."

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 49 minutes ago

This is great, but he still tanked the UK economy to make his fortune, didn't he?

[–] el_twitto@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I hope they all get cancer and.die just slow enough.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 25 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

General strike is the best and most effective means we have. If we wait for AI and robots to replace you, you loose your bargaining power.

Crash the fake economy. Your fucked either way might as well go down swinging and on your terms.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

When you do it, I’ll do it. But I’m not wasting my life if it’s not a community effort.

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My industry doesn’t strike. It wouldn’t work. BUT I hope that all works out for you.

However, striking only works for so long. And, with Trump as president, I doubt there will be much striking allowed once he changes those laws or just replaces you with people from the concentration camp.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 47 points 7 hours ago (13 children)

Yup. Show me a billionaire who has paid their workers fairly from day one, followed every single law and regulation by the book, never spent a single dollar on lobbying Congress or contributing to political campaigns for quid pro quos, and never used underpaid contractors or foreign slave labor. You can’t, because there’s no such thing as a good billionaire.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 0 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 21 minutes ago)

Gabe Newell. Costco guy. Im sure theres europeans as well.

Oh theres communist billionaires too, im sure stalin and lenin and chinese ones were wery respectful of the working class, never had a genocide where up to 20% of the population (that is one in every five. Every fifth post in this thread, gone) were killed for not being the right nationality. And they never exploited entire nations forcefully.

But its okay, fuck everyone in a certain group, dehumanize them and talk about violence against them because a few do bad things. Surely the solution is not to use it to fuel political anti campaign to swing the pendulum hard in the other way by limiting power rich can have in the us via providing the myriad of evidence we already have.

No instead sit on internet and make literal hitler speeches where you replace the word "jews" with "rich" and wonder why everyone thinks far left and right are the same Nazis

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

And even then, if they managed to amass that kind of wealth, it had to come from somewhere, i.e. consumers paying enough for their product that it made them a billionaire, meaning all these people found have paid less and that billionaire could be a millionaire or just middle class and more people would be richer.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

The guy who founded Costco and was its CEO up until a few years ago is this, if not very close. A business lauded for both how it treated its workforce, and its customers. Basically no turnover unless someone retires.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago

Yes, even that one

[–] taldennz@lemmy.nz 4 points 7 hours ago

I don't have a problem with open lobbying per se. If it's on behalf of all of the workers and customers as well and not just their own interests.

But can anyone identify such a billionaire?

And by definition that rules out any that step on their workers like bugs...

[–] jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What about Warren Buffet? Out of genuine interest.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 11 points 5 hours ago

While he certainly comes across as one of the more virtuous billionaires, his company Berkshire Hathaway, has massive investments in some of the worst and most damaging industries in the world, in terms of labor exploitation and ongoing contributions to the climate disaster. For example, his company owns 6.6% of Chevron and 27.2% of Occidental Petroleum, two massive exploiters of fossil fuels. That’s no good in my book.

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[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 32 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That wealth is the spilled blood of the working class

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 hours ago

money is both power and violence

[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 19 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

There is no need for billionaires. They have more money than they know what to do with and could solve a lot of world issues and still have enough money left over to not know what to do with it. There's literally no reason in hoarding all that money if you're not going to spend it. It's a necessity for literally everyone else while they hold onto it to make themselves more powerful. If all the billionaires were hoarding all the food and we had to deal with the scrapes, people would be going absolutely crazy. Even though that's pretty much exactly what they are doing when people can't make enough money to buy food. Throw everything else like medical care and housing into the mix and what you end up with is a few people living a life of luxury while they are literally keeping your life away from you.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

One single billion at any one time is more than any one person should have. There really should just be a cap. Like, 999,999,999 is the highest your bank account can get, anything after that just flows into public programs.

The game Zelda: A link to the past had a max capacity of 999 rupees (money). If you picked up more, nothing happened. That’s how life should be.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What happens when something already owned grows in value past the arbitrary maximum? Net worth is, after all, a function of how valuable everyone else thinks the stuff you own is. It's a price tag.

If you buy a rookie baseball card for $5, and he has a great year and now your card is worth $100, did you deprive anyone of $95 by continuing to own it?

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 0 points 1 hour ago

I’m not super concerned with “things” and their value. If a person makes $1b a year and wants to buy a $1b yacht every year then they have a bunch of yachts. The point is that money went back into the economy. Now, if they have 2 and want to sell 2 for $2b all at once… sorry, no. There is a wealth cap.

The issue with Billionaires now is that money isn’t in the economy. The more they hold, the harder it is to get enough.

Greed is a horrible thing.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Maybe they could use 32-bit twos complement arithmetic so if you have $2147483647 and you add one more dollar, suddenly you have NEGATIVE $2147483648. When you call customer service, they tell you that's not a bug, it's a feature. Heh heh.

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[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

My proof that ethical billionaires don't exist is that there's a line (I usually like to set it at 10 million due to living in a very high CoL area) beyond this line you will never need more money in your life. Money will no longer improve your standard of living and your savings are enough to ride out life in comfort.

When you reach or approach this line you have two options:

  1. Look at everyone you're working with and help them reach that line - if you've accomplished that then start lowering the costs of your business to customers to help your customers reach that line.

  2. Squeeze harder so you get more money and everyone around you gets fucked.

If you chose #2 you are a fucking asshole. You cannot become a billionaire[1] except by choosing #2. You have actively chosen to push down those around you so you can watch number go up.

  1. The exception here is inheritance though someone with a sizable inheritance also has questions about using it to help those around them and, IMO, the estate tax should be near 100% and we should ensure that everyone has as equal a shot at life as we can. I loathe inheritance of wealth as a general concept though some things like having a family home are obviously pretty meaningful to a lot of people.
[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Well, inflation has made that more than 10 million, but yes I agree there is a number that says “I own a huge mansion, 10 cars, a yacht, and I eat caviar every meal.” That number is significantly less than a billion without having to work a day more.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

The premise that merely having more than you need is inherently unethical is completely arbitrary, doubly so when only applied to those who have the most.

I live a fairly simple and frugal lifestyle. The amount of money where I am living at the standard of living and want, and my "savings are enough to ride out life in comfort", is likely a much lower number than most others in the US.

Does that make me more ethical than those others? I don't believe so.

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 hours ago
[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

We should feed them to the orca

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