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[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 50 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

Yup. Show me a billionaire who has paid their workers fairly from day one, followed every single law and regulation by the book, never spent a single dollar on lobbying Congress or contributing to political campaigns for quid pro quos, and never used underpaid contractors or foreign slave labor. You can’t, because there’s no such thing as a good billionaire.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

The guy who founded Costco and was its CEO up until a few years ago is this, if not very close. A business lauded for both how it treated its workforce, and its customers. Basically no turnover unless someone retires.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz -4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Gabe Newell. Costco guy. Im sure theres europeans as well.

Oh theres communist billionaires too, im sure stalin and lenin and chinese ones were wery respectful of the working class, never had a genocide where up to 20% of the population (that is one in every five. Every fifth post in this thread, gone) were killed for not being the right nationality. And they never exploited entire nations forcefully.

But its okay, fuck everyone in a certain group, dehumanize them and talk about violence against them because a few do bad things. Surely the solution is not to use it to fuel political anti campaign to swing the pendulum hard in the other way by limiting power rich can have in the us via providing the myriad of evidence we already have.

No instead sit on internet and make literal hitler speeches where you replace the word "jews" with "rich" and wonder why everyone thinks far left and right are the same Nazis

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And even then, if they managed to amass that kind of wealth, it had to come from somewhere, i.e. consumers paying enough for their product that it made them a billionaire, meaning all these people found have paid less and that billionaire could be a millionaire or just middle class and more people would be richer.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 1 points 16 minutes ago

That is kind of true. But on the assumption that the corporation (in this case Costco) is doing more good than bad, like generating fair jobs, it would benefit most to see that business grow. If you dont generate profit because you distribute everything to your employees or customers, you will never be able to grow. So Costco will stay with 10 employees forever and only those businesses that exploit workers and customers can grow.

You could argue that there is really no need for businesses to grow as big ss many are today and I would completely agree, but that has to be regulated by law.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 14 points 9 hours ago

Yes, even that one

[–] taldennz@lemmy.nz 5 points 9 hours ago

I don't have a problem with open lobbying per se. If it's on behalf of all of the workers and customers as well and not just their own interests.

But can anyone identify such a billionaire?

And by definition that rules out any that step on their workers like bugs...

[–] jellyfishhunter@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What about Warren Buffet? Out of genuine interest.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 13 points 7 hours ago

While he certainly comes across as one of the more virtuous billionaires, his company Berkshire Hathaway, has massive investments in some of the worst and most damaging industries in the world, in terms of labor exploitation and ongoing contributions to the climate disaster. For example, his company owns 6.6% of Chevron and 27.2% of Occidental Petroleum, two massive exploiters of fossil fuels. That’s no good in my book.