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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 68 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

2000 maybe-later-honey: “Fuck off economic left, we don’t need you! You’ll scare away the working class!”

2004 maybe-later-honey: “Fuck off economic left, we don’t need you! You’ll scare away the working class!”

2008 maybe-later-honey: “Well, I guess I have no choice. Yes we can!…Holy shit, we won?

2016 maybe-later-honey: “Fuck off economic left, we don’t need you! You’ll scare away the working class!”

2020 maybe-later-honey: “Fuck off economic left, we don’t need you! You’ll scare away the working class! And look, we won! I TOLD you conceding works!

2024 maybe-later-honey: “Fuck off economic left, we don’t need you! You’ll scare away the working class!”

I’m detecting a pattern here. Hey, all these megacorps are kissing Trump’s rings. Now’s the time to push an economic populist narrative.

[–] MaxOS@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Yeah that seat belt legislation really saved a lot of lives

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

Beyond seat belts - it boils my brain how head rests for car seats weren't made mandatory by law very roughly back in the 1940s. By then there must have been a large number of whiplash cases due to sudden stops and crashes. And g forces aren't rocket science. It's basic physics shit. I don't know when the legislation was finally passed. Around the early 1970s?

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Wikipedia

[Head rests] were mandated by the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) in all new cars sold in the U.S. after January 1, 1969.

[–] Kitathalla@lemy.lol 4 points 1 week ago

And the nader pin, though I'm sure that one isn't quite as life saving.

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That man has not paid a cent in rent in 25 years, because he's been living in libs' brains rent free the whole time.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was tempted to jump into the thread and mention Obama presidency which was worse than useless and it went on for eight goddamned years. But even on a good day - Bluesky libs are not like redditors and they won't engage with thoughtful comments. They block/mute or reply with sarcasm and then they might block/mute.

And of course right now and the near future are not good days because their Trump Derangement Syndrome is at 11 due to their post-inauguration rage.

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Them: "You can't blame the Democrats for things the Republicans are doing!"
Also them: "Ralph Nader did the Brooks Brothers Riot"

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not to mention the supreme court handing bush the presidency when at least half the justices who ruled in his favor had conflicts of interest and should have been made to recuse themselves but of course this country is a fucking joke so of course none of that is an issue

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One of the really wild things in all this is how forgotten that event is when people start screaming about how democracy is broken now.

[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait why do libs hate Ralph Nader? Honestly what can they even claim he did wrong? Or is this about him being a spoiler?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In their mind if not for Nader's 2000 presidential election run - Gore would have won and the US would be a liberal utopia now. That's batshit but that's how some of them actually view reality.

Damn it all to hell - I put a comment in the wrong thread! - https://hexbear.net/comment/5841875

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gore literally did win, then the SC did a judicial coup

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They'll say it being close enough for judicial coup is Naders fault.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Gore would have sucked but boy wouldn't I appreciate a crumb of climate change prevention 25 years ago. Which was at least something he had some passion about.

[–] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder how he would have responded to 9/11

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

An interesting question is would there even be a 9/11? Not even from a Bush did 9/11 position (or any variation of Cheney and him intentionally letting it happen). The official narrative the 9/11 commission cited the contested election and slowdown from the handover from incumbent dem to ingoing republican as contributing to the 9/11 not being prevented. Like had the hijackers just all been arrested weeks before it happening it would be a real different vibe to the start of the 21th century.

But I think had it happened some sort of war on terror probably would have happened. Even possibly an Afghanistan invasion. But I don't think the Iraq invasion and occupation would have happened as that was Cheney and Rumsfield's thing. I think something closer to Obama and Clinton, with bombings, arming rebels, drone strikes, special forces and limited deployments over the middle east would probably have still happened.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

lolwut, are the libs doing Chaos Theory now?

maybe-later-honey "A Butterfly Ballot fucks up Al Gore's vote count in Florida, and 25 years later we have The Storm^QM^ in Washington D.C."

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago

Thinking about how we're all here because of Eugene Debs SMDH

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A guy I work with, who is a computer / math genius who can almost always explain how things work to the most minute detail possible, told me today that he hung out with a friend over the weekend who is "neither left nor right" on the political spectrum.

I asked him what he meant by that. He said "Well she's not left or right. She was one of the originators of the Occupy Wallstreet movement and she cares only about the disparity of the wealthy versus the poor."

I said "oh, you mean she's a leftist then" and he got upset because I didn't hear him tell me she wasn't a Democrat or a Republican. I told him yes, I understand that, but those are both right-wing parties, so she's more of a leftist than that. Good for her.

He looked shocked for a few seconds until it sank in and then he said "Oh, well yeah, if you want to put it that way, sure, but she's not really left or right though."

So I told him "that's not how it works though, just because the two establishment parties aren't leftist doesn't mean leftism isn't a thing, it very much is, especially in other countries." and it was like a light bulb turned on over his head.

Pretty much like he'd never considered there was something outside of Democrat vs Republican before.

It never ceases to amaze me that the technically smart people in my life have never considered there is anything beyond America and its particularly shitty politics.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

It never ceases to amaze me that the technically smart people in my life have never considered there is anything beyond America and its particularly shitty politics.

And the lights from the fires illuminated the figures of donkeys and elephants. The entertained American denizens of Plato's cave knew not of other animals.

[–] stink@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Some of the Occupy WallStreet chuds started eating Elon's gooch and began a Occupy Mars campaign

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you think about it, WW2 was all Rosa's fault

[–] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if the senate had allowed caesar to get away with his popular reforms, we wouldnt be here now

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If tribal people immediately killed those who tried to declare themselves aristocrats, we wouldn't be here.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

most of them probably did, but you only need one tribe of libs in an area to allow aristocrats and death cults to rise, and then that group violently murders everyone sane

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

Archduke Ferdinand didn't duck fast enough

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago

I voted for him and would do it again in a heartbeat. I listen to the Ralph Nader radio hour weekly. My biggest regret was voting for Biden. Fuck that guy what a disaster of a president

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

i voted, which is the only thing i am capable of doing, so now i get to be pouty for 4 years while life doesnt really get worse for me because im pretty well off

god if only there was something i could do aside from vote blue every 4 years

[–] CommunistCuddlefish@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

I'm going to probably be saying this a lot: It's incredible watching a bunch of people who I thought didn't use social media anymore suddenly post a bunch about Trump like he's the next Adolf Hitler. I mean he might be, but they uttered nary a peep about the previous Adolf Hitler aka Genocide Joe. Hell, at least this Hitler brokered a temporary ceasefire to the genocide.

Same goes for people who I thought just weren't politically aware because they never said anything about Palestine.

[–] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

i mean not all, but a lot woulda flown through the windshield to their death and indeed not be here.

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

It might not be true for everyone, but his car safety advocacy is certainly why I'm here.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago

shes right nader would have protected airplanes to prevent hijackings which would have prevented 9/11

we failed him and we failed ourselves

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So Bush getting elected (well, doing a coup) was bad? I thought Bush was good now thonk

[–] NewAcctWhoDis@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Fmr FBI Special Agent, lawyer

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