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[–] Poogona@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait why do libs hate Ralph Nader? Honestly what can they even claim he did wrong? Or is this about him being a spoiler?

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In their mind if not for Nader's 2000 presidential election run - Gore would have won and the US would be a liberal utopia now. That's batshit but that's how some of them actually view reality.

Damn it all to hell - I put a comment in the wrong thread! - https://hexbear.net/comment/5841875

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gore literally did win, then the SC did a judicial coup

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They'll say it being close enough for judicial coup is Naders fault.

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Gore would have sucked but boy wouldn't I appreciate a crumb of climate change prevention 25 years ago. Which was at least something he had some passion about.

[–] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder how he would have responded to 9/11

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

An interesting question is would there even be a 9/11? Not even from a Bush did 9/11 position (or any variation of Cheney and him intentionally letting it happen). The official narrative the 9/11 commission cited the contested election and slowdown from the handover from incumbent dem to ingoing republican as contributing to the 9/11 not being prevented. Like had the hijackers just all been arrested weeks before it happening it would be a real different vibe to the start of the 21th century.

But I think had it happened some sort of war on terror probably would have happened. Even possibly an Afghanistan invasion. But I don't think the Iraq invasion and occupation would have happened as that was Cheney and Rumsfield's thing. I think something closer to Obama and Clinton, with bombings, arming rebels, drone strikes, special forces and limited deployments over the middle east would probably have still happened.