This is second time they trying to pass this bullshit. 2023 https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2023/A8132
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new york will do anything but fix actual problems lmao
This is braindead, are they gonna require background checks for the hardware store next?
Or worse, buying guns everywhere?
Don't forget sporting goods and kitchen supplies. Heck, you can get a bunch of decent knives in IKEA, better put furniture outlets on a watchlist.
Any engineer worth their salt can do this without a 3d printer. Idiots.
Next up, you’re going to have to register your drill press, lathe, etc.
Are they going to require background checks for purchasing metal working equipment? Or maybe just make it illegal to bring any metal to melting point without a license.
Because you can make guns with metal.
Tell us your corporate paymasters are afraid without saying they're afraid.
Someone go ahead and trademark the term "ghost printer."
I built my own, so I guess stepper motors and heating elements should also be under the law.
Some actual gun control laws would be better, not to mention universal health care. What’s next on the list? Kitchen knives? Pans, pots? ;)
I grew up in NY. The gun control laws were draconian 45 years ago. I can't imagine they have become more lax since I departed the state 30 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABpc_oPToQQ
This video shows the stupidity of new york
"Printed guns" by " tipsy duck"
How much harder would it be than getting an actual gun?
Road trip to Georgia and back, basically.
Just FYI, you can't buy a firearm at a dealer outside of your home state without having it shipped to an FFL holder in your home state. E.g., I can't drive to Family Firearms in Alabama from Georgia--where i live--to buy a gun. I have to order from them, and then have it shipped to an FFL near me, and then fill out the paperwork in my own state. In states that allow private, p2p sales (which is most of them), you could buy a firearm with cash from an individual, and they'd never do a background check or fill out a 4473.
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my granny got one in a Walmart parking lot so it can't be that hard.
Still don't know how that even happens.
Well, maybe that’s your (US&A) problem, not 3d printers ;)
Oh my god it's back? I was hoping we'd seen the last of it back in 2023.
Luigi would have passed a background check.
And didn't even use his own printer (according to his confession/manifesto)..
was it even printed in new york? I mean im sure someone would never bring one in from jersey.
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How stupid, I use my printer to print minis for DnD. But, wait, it could theoretically print a gun, better get a background check, and have a waiting period of 6 months... fucking stupid.
Let's try to address the problems that led to this. Nah, let's try to ban stuff instead.
It won't even be effective. As I pointed out earlier, hoodlums in the ghetto, who are the implicit targets of this, aren't buying Bambus and becoming 3D printing experts overnight just to run off one off-the-books Glock. Someone with five or six brain cells to rub together is printing guns in quantity and selling them to the criminals. Anyone willing to employ that business model can and will simply kit build a printer rather than buying an off the shelf unit, which is certainly not difficult to do. It just adds one extra step to the operation for anyone who truly wants to do this, and 3D printing a working firearm is already a pretty decent commitment especially if you're not already an experienced printer. Especially Glock frames.
Ehhh typically the hood gunsmith is the guy with a 10 stack of braincells, who gets an ender and becomes decent enough with it to print a lower, slap a cheap nbs parts kit in it and finish it with an even-cheaper-than-PSA upper, and sell it for $200 to anyone he knows, rinse and repeat. Really makes his money printing switches and DIAS.
Still though, stupid law.
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Awful. Literally banning science, because it can be misused.
We'd better go the full mile. Here's my list of things to be banned, For Our Safety^TM^:
- 3/4" and 1" galvanized steel pipe and endcaps
- Cases of matches
- Acetone
- Stump killer
- Milling machines
- Lathes
- Drill presses
- Hydrogen peroxide
- Salt, Sodium Chloride
- Stainless steel bolts
- Benchtop power supplies
- Sulfur
- Carbon
- Water
- Aluminum foil
I'm sure I can think of others if you give me a minute or two.
Can't you make a pipe bomb out of PVC?
Not a good one, I'd imagine. The casings real purpose afaik is to turn into shrapnel, I don't think plastic would be as effective. Then again, I believe it's common to mix screws or similar in with the explosive for more shrapnel, so maybe. Just speculating though
Usually you fill pipe bombs with shrapnal, like BBs
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Well, that's a broad definition. I guess to whomever wrote that, a CNC mill is also a 3d printer.
It's not like inkjets produce 2 dimensional ink. I'd love to see someone argue in court that it's technically impossible to create a non 3d printer
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A CNC mill seems much more capable of manufacturing firearms than some 300 buck printer.
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You can also technically make a gun with generic plumbing supplies or you could finagle one with random garbage and a drill bit.
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Anything to avoid having to actually address the systemic poverty and bigotry ingrained in the system that leads to violence...
From what I understand the "problem" as it's being framed in terms of ghost guns and inner city crime or whatever the buzzword is this year is not hobbyists running off a lower or frame for themselves. None of those guys in the hood and their switches are buying Bambus or building Vorons and suddenly turning into 3D printing gurus -- Someone, or several someones more likely, are deliberately mass manufacturing these things for sale to the criminals which is already thoroughly illegal. Find the gun runners and stomp on them. I thought you guys were supposed to have this big scary police force and surveillance apparatus?
It's mostly a bunch of little hood gunsmiths, making them and selling them to customers. It's literally the gun equivalent of an attic full of weed plants.
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Gonna require background checks to get plumbing supplies or to go to the hardware store? Cause I can make a gun a hell of a lot easier and quicker with that shit, than I can with a 3d fuckin printer.
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