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[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 83 points 2 days ago (1 children)

however, the association was null at less than 1.5 mg/L.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services recommends a level of 0.7 milligrams per Liter (mg/L) of fluoride in your drinking water.

I’m sick of these idiots.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago

"We included that halfway through the article so we're fine, you're just being ridiculous. What about the headline?"

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 66 points 2 days ago

To protect fetuses and babies who are especially vulnerable, she advised parents to avoid drinking fluoridated water during pregnancy and to use fluoride-free bottled water when preparing formula for their infants.

microplastics-cool


shinji-screm

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids.

strangelove

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not joking when I say that somebody could say in an unironic tone word-for-word on Fox News (or its even worse right-wing competitor outlets) and many hogs would nod in approval. What a fucked up timeline we are in!

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago

Oh, I expect it at this point.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh my fucking god

This is going to spread to every major news outlet isn't it? We're so fucking doomed, this is how scientific advancement is stopped, peasant brained bullshit like this. I'm so out.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 19 points 2 days ago

I guess the most important media outlets (press and tv) in the US are months away from mainstreaming race science material that is openly just asking questions and there will be repulsive "questioning" if immigration hurts IQ. And when there's a massive outcry - the outlets non-apology apologies will be them doubling down and saying the content of the broadcasts and the text of the articles was opinion. And then there will be more race science and at that point there won't even be non-apology apologies.

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Linda Birnbaum, former director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, called for more research into the potential effects of fluoride levels below 1.5 parts per million.

She emphasized that the study had concluded that exposure can be damaging to developing brains. “The answer is pretty clear: yes,” Dr. Birnbaum said.

It did not.

To protect fetuses and babies who are especially vulnerable, she advised parents to avoid drinking fluoridated water during pregnancy and to use fluoride-free bottled water when preparing formula for their infants.

Parents, simply don't be exposed to pollution. It's easy. Don't worry about the microplastics.

“The more we study a lot of chemicals, especially the chemicals that affect I.Q., like lead — there’s really no safe level,” Dr. Birnbaum said.

It's so irresponsible to associate fluoride with lead. This is like people being obsessed with seed oils while ignoring massive amounts of sugar in their diets.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

There also is clearly a safe level because people survived decades of it being pumped into the air and came out relatively fine.

Maybe there's no level that won't impact your health to some degree, but minute impacts aren't worth considering.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I look forward to a toxic cycle where RFK Jr. or other Trump-related turds...

  1. Gets Trump to help them push their total nonsense pet theory on science or medicine that might even be a literal conspiracy theory. At this point MSNBC makes fun of the nonsense.

  2. After enough "questions" have arisen - the GOP sticks funding for a study on X in a big bill that the dems say "has to pass". Both sides-ing begins. The dems end up looking like they too want the study done no matter how much they say they don't.

  3. The study might debunk the fucking nonsense. But that doesn't matter at all. Whatever the study actually says - the turd insists they were right all along. Other turds in Trump world agree.

  4. Right-wing media pushes the fucking nonsense because Trump likes it.

  5. The totality of the media actually debates the fucking nonsense. At this point MSNBC has on experts to debate the fucking nonsense.

  6. The nonsense has been mainstreamed.

  7. The public is confused. Is fluoride good in the water? Or does it make kids dumb? Maybe we shouldn't put it in the water!

Repeat for the next total nonsense pet theory. Trump might get in on the action for his own bullshit ideas.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This feels disturbingly prescient. I hate it. Well done.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

My post-election mistake was to assume this normalization process would be patchy and it would start many months after Trump's election. I can't believe the process is going to be major, super-speedy, and it's already happening. Everything is the Onion now. Satire and reality can't be differentiated. Another Hexbear post of mine from today is from WaPo - [Not the Onion] The looming Eurasian menace.

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

I hope MSNBC just becomes the crystal energy network

[–] Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 2 days ago

And then this shit filters over to Europe

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago

dentists looking at all the future fillings they're going to get to do free-real-estate

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 44 points 2 days ago

IQ is a sham anyway, but fuck, this is gonna get insufferable

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Regardless if IQ tests actually measure intelligence, using them to compare 2 people raised on different continents, in different cultures, who speak different languages, were part of different education systems, took different tests, and were tested under different conditions is not gonna tell you anything.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

It is but it doesn't matter. It's the message that this kind of thinking in headlines sends out (regardless of any refutation in the text). It's basically giving free reign to quackery as mainstream thought.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nobody reads articles anymore. Headlines are all that matter. This week or even today RFK Jr. or Trump or any other repulsive clown in Trump's inner circle could incorrectly say "high fluoride lowers kid IQ" and then there will be debates on it.

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Edit

"High"? What was I thinking. Why include that sciencey word? They could simply say "fluoride lowers kid IQ".

[–] Chronicon@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

oh come on lol, it will be "chemicals make kid dumb"

[–] miz@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

I.Q. IS BULLSHIT TO BEGIN WITH! MOTHERFUCK!

IQ demolished. Definitively. Goodbye IQ. You’re not real. Brain numbers are a foolish undertaking, tied to unimaginable suffering and horror. You are not science. Bye bye.

https://srslywrong.com/podcast/253-why-iq-is-bullshit/

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 20 points 2 days ago

what's the association between public health and lead in the drinking water? is it "bad"?

because we have a lot of that going around somehow in 2025 and don't need to make shit up about fluoride for the cranks.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I looked into this last, the data was on several orders of magnitude more than what's in drinking water

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah, high flouride. in some locales they remove naturally high flouride from the water to bring it closer to normal levels

[–] miz@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

basket of defluorables

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago

PLS DONT TAKE THE FLUORIDE AWAY FROM ME MY TEETH WILL FALL OUT NOOOO boohoo

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Did the Israeli minister of peace and coexistance joined the NYT's editorial board?

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago

It would be one hell of a bit if we tricked chuds into rejecting all the liberal institutions fawning over them.

frothingfash: “Well well well, look who’s come crawling back to wanting my money! Fuck you, you wokies made your choice!”

One good thing I’ve learned over the past few years is to never listen to news reporting on a “study”

[–] BlazarNGC@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

NYT is dead change my mind.

[–] nohaybanda@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

NYT has been the Renfield to Capital’s Dracula for as long as it has existed

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

New York Times is still doing their New York Crimes, so I wouldn't call them dead.

[–] falgscode@hexbear.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

An issue of the New York Times published on September 10, 1906, chronicled the result:

“Several thousand persons took the subway, the elevated and the surface cars to the New York Zoological Park in the Bronx yesterday, and there watched Ota Benga, the bushman, who has been put by the management on exhibition there in the monkey cage.

The bushman didn't seemed (sic) to mind it, and there could be no doubt that to the majority the joint man and monkey exhibition was the most interesting sight in the Bronx park. Over and over again, the crowd laughed at him. If he wonders why he does not show it.”

In case you think that this is unfairly judging the paper by the standards of today:

...a group of black clergymen took obvious and immediate offence to this display.

Led by James H. Gordon, the group called for an immediate end to Benga’s incarceration.