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Not sure if this is 100% scientifically backed but I read a bit by a dental hygienist on a forum that you shouldn't rinse when brushing with proper toothpaste because it can help remineralize the teeth if when its not rinsed away after

Its annoying but its a good way to cut down on mindless snacking at the very least for me so its something I do sometimes. Hope its not voodoo

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[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Get an electric toothbrush. Don't push hard, just slowly move it and hold it gently against your teeth / gums in each spot.

If you hate flossing like I do, a waterpik is helpful.

Brush twice a day.

Don't rinse after brushing like you said.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Waterpik is nifty, but I found a solution that works well in conjunction with it, but without the frustration of flossing . Gum Proxabrush are little brushes that go between your teeth to scrub out the gunk. My hygienist was saying they work better than floss. I've really liked them.

[–] Zorg@lemmings.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My teeth are so tight I can sometimes barely get floss down between them. A brush would have no chance of cleaning the whole sides of the teeth.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You may already know, but Glide by oralb is great for tight teeth. It's flatter and slippery. The only issue I've found is that it snaps more often.

[–] Zorg@lemmings.world 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, I loved that floss! Right up until I found it's so good because it's coated in Teflon.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Fuck. Thanks I guess?.. now I need new floss

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[–] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Waterpik is not a replacement for flossing, fyi

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

No but it's better than nothing.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

~~Doesn't the WaterPik sort of negate the don't rinse thing, or are you saying less is more in terms of water getting in the way of remineralization and you net benefit from using that for flossing. I definitely prefer it over physical floss~~

Use flosser first, THEN brush without rinsing. Got it 😁

[–] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

You can do the WaterPik before brushing and then don’t rinse after brushing.

[–] ArghZombies@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

All the advances in toothcare seems to be around fancier electric brushes or other gadgets, but regardless we've never been able to move away from 'brush for 2 minutes'. I want some fancy device I just bite down on and it zaps my whole mouth clean in 5 seconds.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

a UV flashbang pill? multi-laser drone?? Never ask an AI for dental products again?

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[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Just pull the transformer out of your microwave, aim it at your face, and open your mouth

[–] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I spoke with a dental hygienist in a hot tub once (that’s how you know this information is solid). She did say to avoid rinsing or mouthwash after brushing with fluoride toothpaste. She also wasn’t a huge fan of alcohol mouthwash in general as it kills both good and bad bacteria. Too bad because I really do enjoy the “burn” feeling when I use it.

[–] Dexx1s@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I've heard both, but I can't not rinse after brushing. Any taste of actual toothpaste in my mouth is unsettling to me.

[–] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Just let it sit for 10-15 minutes, then reward yourself by washing it down with a cup of fresh orange juice.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was told by my dental hygienist that although you shouldn’t rinse after brushing, you can spit as many times as you want. Your saliva isn’t going to be able to totally rinse off the fluoride the way water will. IME it usually only takes a few extra spits to get from overwhelmingly minty to present but bearable.

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[–] ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

I got a sensodyne toothpaste recently that doesn’t have that overwhelming toothpaste taste. It’s the nourish stuff and its flavor is “natural mint and citrus oil”, and it’s mostly not the mint that I taste. It was super weird for a few days, but I strongly prefer it over toothpaste flavored toothpaste.

Maybe something like that would work better for you, as well.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

You get used to it after a while. The taste of the toothpaste subsides pretty quickly as well, so it's not like an extended period of suffering.

[–] ExtraMedicated@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Electric toothbrush. The hygenist often says she can tell I tell I take care of my teeth, but really, I usually only brush and floss once a day.

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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Rinsing with salt water seems to work well for me. I have no idea what the science says about it though. But there is some talk in new treatments about ionizing stimulating healing, and I wouldn't be surprised if salt water does a bit of that too.?
I also wouldn't be surprised if it helps remineralize. Very subjectively it feels like it does a little, but it's easy to fool oneself with wishful thinking. Preferably have a dentist monitor results.

[–] TheBiscuitLout@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

My hygienist recommended that I use salt water instead of mouthwash, so I’d think you’re probably barking up the right tree

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[–] timetravel@lemmings.world 11 points 11 months ago

Waterpik, both between the teeth and then the low power gum one, followed by rinsing with Listerine complete, takes such good care of my gingivitis that I don't even need to get cleanings for plaque anymore. I might scrape some off every 6 months or a year if even. I used to get migraines from it daily, then needed cleaning every 6 months. Total game changer

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Waterpik Sonic Fusion. I brush before bed, and wake up feeling almost "from the dentist" clean. Also the whole thing has timers so I don't have to worry about that.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
  • have flossers you like in your EDC bag, use them whenever you have time. GUM flossers are my favorite
  • avoid sugar in your diet, but if you can't - brush after eating sugar
  • avoid brushing teeth / flossing immediately before and after sex. The cleaning process can cause micro abrasians in your gums.
  • get a nice tongue scraper and make it part of your daily routine, for better breath.
[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do my gums know if I'm having sex?

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

If you engage in any oral fluid exchange (kissing, licking, oral sex) then there will be small microscopic souvenirs floating around in your mouth for some time. Your body, and your skin, have natural defenses, so this isn't a huge deal usually.

If you have cuts in your skin, or direct pathways from the outside to the inside, then any of your souvenirs could get directly introduced into your bloodstream, reducing your natural immunity defenses. Unnecessarily.

Brushing your teeth, and flossing your teeth, can cause abrasions and bleeding, even microscopic un-noticeable bleeding, which is enough for a pathogen to transverse the blood barrier.

So to be safe, don't brush your teeth, don't floss your teeth, immediately before or after sex

[–] executivechimp@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

Can we stop with the kink shaming?

[–] kryllic@programming.dev 6 points 11 months ago

Tongue scraper is fantastic. Got a cheap metal one online for less than $5, works great and is easy to clean.

[–] whenigrowup356@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I've generally read that you should avoid brushing for about 30-60 minutes after eating anything, since the acidity of your mouth is elevated and that softens your teeth more than normal.

cmv if you have different data I guess

[–] MrsDoyle@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (5 children)

My dental hygienist told me not to rinse. "You're paying for the fluoride, why wash it away?" Makes sense. The dentist told me not to use mouthwash, because it upsets the mouth's natural pH.

My biggest find lately is silicon toothpick thingies - interdental brushes. They get to crevices floss can't reach.

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[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago

Try not to accidentally lose your gum shield in a scrum, ruck or maul.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Yep, you shouldn't rinse your mouth, because a proper toothpaste has fluoride, which helps remineralize enamel. Keep in mind it won't restore already decayed enamel though.

Anyway, I am not that sure about electric toothbrushes. At least it's not necessary. On Wednesday when I've been on dental check-up, I asked my dentist whether electric toothbrush would be a good idea. She said "Well... it can be... but you already do pretty good job of cleaning your teeth, so I just recommend you stick to that." I just use a regular toothbrush. However, just the brushing does take me a while. About 10-12 minutes. Yeah.

Well, something that could be a tip is xylitol chewing gum. Most sugar-free gums use xylitol. It is artificial sweetener that's actually good for teeth. It helps remineralize teeth like fluoride, remove plaque build up, and it kills acid-producing bacteria. That is because the bacteria consumes it like regular sugar, but it can't process it, so it just dies. You can also buy xylitol as a powder, because it's, well, a sweetener.

Now to the disadvantages of xylitol: Consuming larger amounts (I think it's just around 25g) can cause diarrhea and cramps. It is also extremely toxic to dogs. Just 100mg/1kg can cause them seizures and 500mg/1kg can cause death. Obviously that's just approximate, so keep your dog away from xylitol.

Disclaimer: I am not a professional in this field.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 points 11 months ago

10-12 minutes????? You're going to get toothbrush abraisions

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Electric toothbrushes are excellent for stimulating the gums and keeping them in good order so they don’t recede. The Sonicare are especially good for this reason.

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[–] Elephant0991@lemmy.bleh.au 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Listerine seems to help remove plaque effectively. Since start using it in the middle of the night when I wake up, not getting regularly cleaned doesn't seem to be a problem anymore. This is coupled with flossing and thorough brushing of course.

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Tips I have learned over the years. In priority order.

  1. Buy a sonicare toothbrush. They are supposed to be better than even Oral B because of the sound waves they produce. May seem expensive but far cheaper than almost any dental procedure. Studies have shown that electric toothbrushes clean better than manual.
  2. Brush daily.
  3. If you cannot brush one day at least use a flouride mouthwash.
  4. Do not use water on your toothbrush. Something in water hinders the effectiveness of flouride.
  5. Do not rinse your mouth with water after brushing. Leave that toothpaste on your teeth.
  6. Buy a water pik and use it. They clean better than flossing.
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