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In the US most students recite "the pledge of allegiance" every morning before school, which is kind of crazy. If you were in charge, what if anything would you replace it with?

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 142 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

Damn that's a good answer.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 83 points 2 months ago (2 children)

can it be nothing. why not nothing

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And do the same for the national anthem before every fucking sporting event. I’ll be damned if I’m standing and praying to a flag at every summer swim meet that is already going to take 4 hours to get done.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Don't even get me started. My high school didn't just do sports events, but they did the anthem or the pledge before just about every single event held in the building.

Cultlike behavior.

Actually, no. Just Cult behavior.

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I never understood why Americans do that. For international events where the anthems of both teams are played, sure. But otherwise? Do you guys forget which country you are in?

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It’s an effect of the crazy religiosity that Europe shipped over before the country was even founded. So much nutty Protestant fervor has rippled through American society since then. It infected secular institutions over time.

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[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 months ago

It’s part of the militarization of everything, and acts as patriotism propaganda.

Not only the anthem, but they usually have armed forces people, equipment, sponsorship, etc. and why it’s such a big deal with athletes don’t fawn enough over it (eg. the take a knee “scandal”)

Sports are a strong recruitment tool, being popular with men throughout their lives, and have been wildly taken over with military propaganda as a result.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

How dare you propose freedom in the land of the free. No freedom for you! Not until you pledge an allegiance.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A pledge enumerating the basic human rights of all people.

No flags, no governments, no religion needs a pledge. We need to pledge to be honorable human beings above all else.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

Nothing. Just let the kids do their morning uninterrupted.

It's state law where I live. Fucking crazy.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

Nothing, propaganda pledges don't have a place in institutions of learning.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nothing.

If you want your citizens to be loyal, give them a good life, not a brainwashing.

I am a Swede, my life has been good, I may not be physically fit for fighting, but I absolutely would join the military and do support for the fighting for Sweden if needed.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I, too, would fight for Sweden, which I've only visited a few times to see my new in-laws.

Sweden is THAT awesome.

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[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I'm an American moving to Sweden right now.

I'd fight for you in a second. You're good people and I don't think you'd start shit without a reason.

So I guess "And you have my state of the art military AI drone technology!"

[–] Nog00d@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This one sounds kinda good:

  • One should strive to act with compassion and empathy towards all creatures in accordance with reason.
  • The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
  • One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone.
  • The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the another is to forgo your own.
  • Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
  • People are fallible. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it and resolve any harm that may have been caused.
  • Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion , wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 months ago

Satanic laugh

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[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

I would replace it with education. Which is the purpose of schools.

[–] traches@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago

Delete the middle.

“I pledge allegiance to liberty and justice for all”

[–] echo@lemmings.world 14 points 2 months ago

How about nothing? Why do we need to indoctrinate children with any kind of this bullshit?

[–] FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago

I just never did it, why even replace it. just remove it entirely.

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No pledge. And "God bless America" should be dropped in favor of "Yippie-Ki-Yay, motherfucker".

[–] starlord@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago

By Grabthar's Hammer, by the Suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The 7 sacred tenants of the Satanic Temple

Ironically, I think the Satanic Temple would oppose such a policy.

[–] pugsnroses77@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 months ago

daily affirmations would be nice for the kiddos

[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 months ago

The Team Rocket motto

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

2 minutes of deep breathing to relax and concentrate, repeated through the day.

That's it, just give everyone a chance to relax and center before getting back to the crazy.

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[–] Skanky@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Gee, I dunno...How about learning something?

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 8 points 2 months ago

Silent meditation.

[–] BluesF@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

Nothing. Maybe a “good morning, do your best, and remember to be kind today”

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago

Nothing. There would be no replacement and the pledge would fade from memory.

[–] HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

The navy seal copypasta

[–] JadenSmith@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

The I Love Egg song. No shortcuts.

Could even make an entire assembly about it. Every morning, spend five minutes dancing and showing allegiance to the vitamins and minerals in you, and oodles of the proteins too (oodle doodle)!

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I vow to live my life in a way that supports the thriving of all life in perpetuity.

[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Back when I was an extremely earnest 14-year-old I wanted to replace it with Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot speech, but honestly that's probably too long and I don't think forcing 5-year-olds to recite something they won't even understand is a good way to instill anything worth instilling.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I pledge allegiance to the drag of the United Queens of America.

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[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

"we love our bread, we love our butter, but most of all we love each other" 🥰

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I drink it from a cup.

I drink it from a bottle.

I drink it from the belly button

Of a super model!

Apple juice and vodka!

Apple juice and vodka!

Why you drinking water?

Apple juice and vodka!

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

Just let them visit amongst themselves for like two minutes and get ready to tackle the day.

[–] Num10ck@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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