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[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The US acting fast to curtail corporate overreach just isn't going to happen. We stopped doing that in the 70s.

[–] Assman@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

We stopped acting at all in the 2010s. GOP won't even pass legislation they asked for anymore.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

That's the GOP MO. Grind literally everything to a halt until they control both houses and the executive branch, then cut taxes on the rich, cram in as many judicial appointments as possible and weaken regulatory bodies as much as they can. They've been running that playbook since the mid 00's.

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

national security risks

Thus usually translates to someone paid a bribe to kick out competition.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Its not a bribe, just a trip to Disney land

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Would it not be a bribe if I threw in Disney world as well?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Believe it or not, still a bribe.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Perhaps I need to though in a brand new car!

Damn politicians are hard to please

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Authorities should also “urgently” consider outlawing the publication of the “weights,” or inner workings, of powerful AI models, for example under open-source licenses, with violations possibly punishable by jail time, the report says

Fuck that, so only huge corporations can have access to it. You won't even be able to have start ups to challenge the behemoths because this would shut down any open scientific papers explaining how AI works to get started.

If you want to make a case this technology is an existential threat equivalent to nukes and any proliferation is dangerous then treat it like nukes and nationalize it and make it so only government can produce it. At least the government is nominally subject to the people instead of a bunch of companies who will happily destroy the world if it makes them an extra buck.

We're probably nowhere near that threat though so something like this would only serve to widen the gap between the current batch of huge AI companies and smaller scale developers and enthusiasts.

[–] match@pawb.social 4 points 6 months ago

We could at the bare minimum sign the autonomous weapons treaty

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

There's probably no way to let corporations own AGI without letting them own us all.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 6 months ago

This is exactly what the big AI companies want. This will kill open source and freely available AI and anything made with it, forcing the only available options to be proprietary and lucrative.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The U.S. government must move “quickly and decisively” to avert substantial national security risks stemming from artificial intelligence (AI) which could, in the worst case, cause an “extinction-level threat to the human species,” says a report commissioned by the U.S. government

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many say it will arrive in the next five years

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In other words, DARPA or a national lab have it, and China just figured it out or they're worried they're close.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I don't get the impression that the US government is on the cutting edge of AI development, although the Chinese government may be.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Which is an idiotic take considering all the AI tech has been coming out of the US.

Along with all the robotics tech.

And most other tech.

Chinas advantage is in manufacturing, that’s it.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not saying that the USA isn't in the lead, only that the US government seems somewhat out of touch. If US government labs are secretly ahead of industry on AI, they're doing a very good job of keeping it secret.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Chinas advantage is in manufacturing

No, that's their main advantage that funds their other activities. That's their thing that most Americans know about China, which isn't saying much. They also have insane tech talent, as does North Korea, because they start teaching/hiring teenagers to work for them, with all that extra neuroplasticity, and they're happy to 'help.'

China leads everyone else in the world in leapfrogging via industrial espionage. They don't need to do the backbreaking work of creating paradigm shifts in physics, tech, engineering, they only need to have people who can understand and implement it.

You'll see this in academia as well, Chinese students are far and away more aggressive cheaters.

In Chinese culture it doesn't matter how you get ahead as long as you aren't hurting family or the state, the ends justify the means.

[–] Syn_Attck@lemmy.today 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The US government works with companies like OpenAI, they sell them custom capabilities while learning more about the system and then eventually they build and improve their own systems for more sensitive operational abilities. DoD has been heavily involved in AI (specifically generative AI) publicly for years now so you can be assured it's been in research for at least a decsde.. Here's there github repo but you can find a lot of .mil PDF files talking about it too. https://github.com/deptofdefense/LLMs-at-DoD

DARPA and the National Labs (Lawrence Livermore National Lab, Oak Ridge, Brookhaven, etc. are the ones who pull scientists from universities to work there when their research is something that has a clear and present military application.

Also for the other guy talking about China not being good at AI or anything besides manufacture, here's some good examples of their GenAI propaganda at work. Now, this isn't actual AGI, which is what the article is worrying about, but it shows they've been working on these capabilities for some time and have an automated system for pushing messaging. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3FQSFnZpsqw

I'm not sure if I'm worried more about AGI, or people I know, because agressive propaganda campaigns have been underway and are kicking up even more now, using LLMs and other GenAI.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -1 points 6 months ago

The AI "threat" is probably the public reaction to AI